Karol,

what do you think about bush's plan to "postpone" the election? Do you support him in this obvious grab at what vestiges we have left of a democracy?

I am appalled. Simply appalled that he would even dip his toe.

All this talk about hating dictators. ha!

Never in our history has an election been "postponed" - not matter what. Wars, terrors, cold wars....nothing. Nothing should keep us from moving forward and changing the way we run things.

ak. I am sitting at the edge of my seat to see what that idiot and his cronies will try to pull next.

It is a tragedy that left viciously attacks anybody who says that condoms are not the only answer to AIDS prevention. Here is another theory about AIDS that is being ignored:

A scientist has developed a theory much of AIDS is transmitted in Africa through faulty medical hygiene. Africans prefer shots to pills and dirty needles and syringes could be the culprit.

This discovery makes a lot of sense. I could not believe the Africans were as promiscuous as the stats would have us believe.

We should at least test the medical hygiene theory in an isolated district. It would be tragic if this was the real reason for the spread of AIDS and we did nothing about it.

Improving medical hygiene would also slow the spread of malaria, which is a bigger killer in Africa than AIDS.

Anon:

If you are sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for the election to be cancelled you are going to have a mighty sore butt.

The real danger is that Kerry will try to take over the government with a coup just as Gore tried to do in 2000.

Anon,

Elections were cancelled in NYC on 9/11. I know, because the only reason I wasn't at the top of the Chrysler Building that day was because I went to go vote. I'll leave your comment even though it's off topic. I don't know what I think of postponing elections. I'm still thinking it over.

Jake,

I know, it's ridiculous, we can't even talk openly about the reasons why AIDS might be happening. It's as if Planned Parenthood owns stock in condom companies or something, they push it that hard.

i read a lot about this on tactitus, and there is a guy that is citing a study that where couples (one hiv+ and one hiv-) where getting it on and there where no new cases of hiv in the group

ALSo, the stats on Unganda where also attacked (attacked only though, not proven to be wrong)

that being said.

I belive that sex is one way aids is transmitted, though it may not be the biggest in africa.

If it is, their culture is killing them, and the left does not want to stop it. They only want to put a latex cover on it.

Why can't we aggressively promote abstinence and provide condoms. A one two punch. I beleive the social liberals that you don't understand disagree with the absence of condoms in abstinence only programs, not with abstinence.

Paul, the problem is funding. PP thinks its criminal that 1/3 of funding goes to abstinence teaching. I think that's absurd. That 1/3 is the only 1/3 that appears to be working.

1/3 of the funding for abstinence efforts in uganda/sub-saharan africa does make sense - it's the inflexibility (on both sides here) in tailoring the spending to meet the needs of the target population that's baffling - for example, in thailand, the promotion of condom use among sex workers was responsible for a substantial drop in the hiv rate - in dealing with similar populations, I can't see how imposing an emphasis on abstinence education makes any sense...

What they seem to not be focusing on is the 2/3 of the ABC program that isn't abstinence. Being faithful and condoms. Okay, so they aren't first, but they are there....isn't that enough for them? If the A in ABC is helping to make the rest of it work...why should it be so hotly debated? Furthermore, condoms can help....they can prevent, 98% of the time. But abstinence always prevents. It pisses me off that she is using rape victims to say that condoms should be pushed. Ummmm, last time I checked they don't get to stop and say "Excuse me, would you mind wrapping that up for me? I don't want to get some stinky illness! Thanks!" How unrealistic. And the girls that are pressured into sex? Yeah, if they can be pressured into sex, what makes anyone think that they can't be pressured OUT of condoms. Sigh. Talk about unrealistic.

I think liberals would have problems with the 'B' too. Who are we to be preaching fidelity? That's so, urg, conservative.

karol - linked over from bolgsforbush.

u ask "If teaching abstinence is helping curb the spread of AIDS, why do liberals hate it so much?"

then say "Is it just because it sounds conservative and anything that's conservative is immediately bad?"

karol, let's face it, the lefty leadership (from the '60's)who control the Dem party are HEATHENS.

yes, well beyond Lenin's "useful idiots" (a phrase he applied to the pacifist left) they hate the faithful & any solutions dervied therein.

its why I'm no longer a dem, having been a centrist anyway.

its why they've been relegated to minority status at state & federal level & why their commentary devolves into backbench rubbish.

"I don't care what you do as long as I'm not paying for it."

Word.

The thing is, abstinence education without contraception education seems not to work so well for those people who end up violating the abstinence pledge. Several studies have come out about this, showing that teen in America who violate their pledge (and it does happen) end up using contraception LESS than their non-pledging counterparts. This isn't a good sign. Of course, abstinence education is the best way to prevent diseases and unwanted pregnancies, but it works better when you do both. I've been changing my view from abstinence-only to abstinence PLUS. If it's not rude to do so, I've got some links on a post of mine here

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