REICH WHINGE VIGILANTISM IN IRAQ

From Iraq the Model.

Some good news! A group of Iraqi citizens in Al Karkh/ Khidr Al Yas arrested 6 Syrian terrorists after placing a land mine at the gate of Bab Al Mu’a dam bridge from Al Karkh side.

According to New Sabah newspaper, after a road side bomb exploded missing an American convoy that was patrolling in the area, a group of citizens who happened to be there noticed a bunch of young men who looked foreigners (turned out to be Syrians) that were gathering near the place and that looked suspicious. The citizens found their attitude very suspicious and they were not from the area, so they jumped on them and kicked them until some of them started to bleed and then turned them on to the American forces. Eyewitnesses said that the citizens were shouting "Terrorists. You are targeting our children and families. You are killing our youths"

This incident that took place near Haifa street comes after many attacks that terrorist Arabs were accused of carrying against American forces and Iraqi police stations.

Read the comments and note how it doesn't even occur to any of these rubes that the 6 Syrians, who were beaten by the vigilante mob rubes, certainly did not have even had anything to do with the bombing or any other resistance. It's simply good enough for them and the mob that something happened and there were a bunch of dark skinned foreigners around on which they could vent their hatred. One has to wonder if Ameri-con forces hadn't been there what fate these men would have suffered at the hands of this enraged mob. Or what the occupiers did to them in a windowless room.

What a wonderful country Bush has turned Halliburton subsidiary Iraq into. A dismal place where xenophobia abounds and non-white people are guilty until proven innocent.

Robert: Your comment was a joke-right? In case it wasn’t here is my answer:

The only forces we are fighting against in Iraq are the terrorists from Syria and Iran. Once the Syrians and Iranians in Iraq are dead, peace will come to the Iraqi people. We know it and the Iraqis know it. But somehow you don’t.

Saying that the Syrians in Iraq are innocent is like saying that German soldiers in France in 1944 were innocent.

Those citizens who captured the Syrians were freedom fighters and deserve medals.

What Mark did not mention was Bush’s answers to those questions. His answers were brilliant and he knocked those questions out of the park.

When they heard Bush’s answers, those reporters were very embarrassed. The reporters looked like the fools they were.

Bush is going to be mighty tough to beat in the debates.

The opposition in iraq is most likely composed of a roughly equal number of genuine insurgents and iraqis.

for the record this summer i met numerous iraqi kurds. in the canteen at work bush was being interviewed and every single kurdish man stuck his middle finger up at the image. i was stunned by this and asked them why they did that.

their response was to tell me that they hate Bush and America more than Saddam.

Let’s get this straight. Saddam murdered hundreds of thousands of Kurds with poison gas or mass executions, The Kurdish created a thriving economy in Northern Iraq in the 90s because they received the protection of US planes. During the liberation of Iraq, Kurdish forces did almost all the fighting against Saddam’s forces in the north.

Now you say these Kurds prefer Saddam. Yeah-right.

The Kurds are very polite people and they know the liberals love Saddam and hate America so those Kurds were telling you what you wanted to hear.

Also: There are very few Iraqis that are still fighting and they are Shiite Moslems controlled, financed and supplied by the Iranian dictators.

Jake, more likely, Kurds in YWL's Britain never had to endure for one second what Kurds in Iraq did. It's easy to stick your middle finger up at Bush when you've never lived with the fear of having your hand cut off.

kurds are the only people who really like us in Iraq. I mean their are plenty of others who do also, but the kurds really like us.

Everyone else is greateful, but wary, which is understandable.

robert,
"Read the comments and note how it doesn't even occur to any of these rubes that the 6 Syrians, who were beaten by the vigilante mob rubes, certainly did not have even had anything to do with the bombing or any other resistance."

that is ture, but when their is no police force who do you turn to? you rely on yourself and the mob you are with.

This mob should have just capurted them and not killed them, but then again if you family had been killed by outsiders, how would you feel.

Their anger was placed correctly, also judgeing by what i know of islam and how it deals with people it is angry at, these guys got off well.

"The opposition in iraq is most likely composed of a roughly equal number of genuine insurgents and iraqis."

I agree with that statment, but who is funding those groups? Is the funding coming from within or without. My bet would be on without.

I find that remarkable. The press did not ask ONE question to Allawi???
Your right, its pathetic.

Can I ask you why any of you put trust in Allawi, the administration's second hand-picked choice after the press got all hot and heavy over Chalabi? Why would we need to ask Allawi anything? Why would we expect a truthful response? The Bush administration has given him a nation of his very own.

At what point after being given your own country to run would you expect someone to honestly say "wow. yeah. things look like they're getting worse and nobody seems to like you. please go."? Even if that isn't the case, you all know he wouldn't even admit it if it was. He's not in a position to do so. What you should expect is that he says whatever fits best with the Bush campaign rhetoric, so that he can continue to receive favors from them during the 2004-2008 term. So there isn't that much point in having him interviewed when his boss is right there, taking one of his first press conferences in a month...

And Jake--why does your intuition about Kurds triumph YWL's actual experience with them? We all have intuitions about how people might react. Some of us intuit that people who went from having effective air cover under Clinton to being on the brink of civil war under Bush might experience some resentment. Some of us intuit that people who were liberated from a vicious dictator would be grateful to whomever did the liberating. But our only measure of distinction between these two intuitions is experience, and while Karol's right that these YWL's Kurds may not be expressing a first-hand opinion, news coverage and polling seems to indicate that actual Kurds share the same sentiment. You can say that the news coverage is biased, but you won't be convincing others of this when your only reasoning is "well, they should be greatful, so they must be greatful".

one of them was an ex kurdish soldier. Had been in UK for about 6 years.