October 21, 2004
Are ya kidding me?
'I’m a little concerned about this notion everybody wants us to be objective'- Peter Jennings.
Posted by Karol at October 21, 2004 09:42 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags:
I would be happy if Jennings would stop hating America and Americans.
Posted by: Jake at October 21, 2004 11:23 PMWell, maybe news organizations should disclose their biases. Fox News does it. They catch flak for it, but at least you know where they're coming from.
Posted by: Shawn at October 21, 2004 11:30 PMWho on Fox discloses their biases?
Posted by: Karol at October 21, 2004 11:32 PMI don't see it as just one person. Granted it's mostly folks like O'Reilly and Hannity. Pretty pro-Bush, pro-conservative, etc. Heck, I'm still waiting for Hannity to give Colmes such a monster noogie.
But if a whole bunch of left-wingers hate Fox News, they gotta be doing something.
Posted by: Shawn at October 21, 2004 11:38 PMO'Reilly is not a conservative. I just don't get why people think he is. I've read both of his books and can't see it at all. Also, these are opinion people, not news people. That's why they're upfront in their biases, because it's their job to be biased.
Posted by: Karol at October 21, 2004 11:50 PMHoly Crack! I about fell over when I read that. It is obvious we have gone from 'reporting the news' to reporting the news in a manner that favors my personal beliefs. Beastly.
Posted by: davidj at October 22, 2004 12:01 AM"Also, these are opinion people, not news people." So, for ten years I've been trying to explain that distinction to you as it relates to paul krugman or bob herbert and you didn't get it. Now, it's O'reilly and hannity, suddenly you're giving lectures? (Insert Italian exclamation!)
Posted by: Dawn Summers at October 22, 2004 12:06 AMNo clue when we ever discussed opinion v. news.
Posted by: Karol at October 22, 2004 12:11 AMThis is progress. They're giving up trying to claim objectivity, maybe because Rathergate has made it impossible to claim it and keep a straight face. But more likely, it's a prelude to a 10-day all-out assault on Bush, free of any need to pretend to be objecive.
Posted by: Jim at October 22, 2004 12:22 AMI find it wonderful that the left-wing MSM has lost half of their audience and circulation since Reagan took office. This drop occurred even though our population has grown by leaps and bounds.
Hate America is getting less and less saleable.
Posted by: Jake at October 22, 2004 12:27 AMO'Reilly is not a conservative.
Well, certainly not 100% (who is?). But this entry at fact-index.com says he takes conservative viewpoints 60% of the time.
And he's got quite an archive of columns at Townhall.com (which ranks 8 in a Google search of "Bill O'Reilly.")
Posted by: Shawn at October 22, 2004 12:30 AMKarol is right.
Hannity and O'reilly are not anchormen. They are hosts of news analysis shows. If you watch the actual news programming on FOX, it is not biased. It is not. Period. End of story. People who think it's biased don't watch it. People who watch it, don't turn it off.
Posted by: Dorian at October 22, 2004 12:32 AMLooking at the quote in the context of Tuesday's entire article, Jennings doesn't come off nearly so badly:
In Part:
Jennings said that everyone -- even journalists -- have points of view through which they filter their perception of the news. It could be race, sex or income. But, he said, reporters are ideally trained to be as objective as possible.
"And when we don't think we can be fully objective, to be fair," the anchorman said.
Fox is like 80% opinion show and 20% straight news. It also jumbles them together so you never know what you are watching if a layperson just flipped it to Fox News. Atleast CNN has a seperate channel that is only straight news.
Posted by: PAUL at October 22, 2004 05:29 PMCNN's 'only news' channel is complete nonsense. I think its more biased than actual CNN. And I think most people are smarter than you give them credit for.
Posted by: Karol at October 22, 2004 09:41 PMKarol weren't you on CNN Headline News?
The opinion shows talk about the news. When a channel is 80% opinion and 20% straight news, I laugh when they claim not to be biased.
Paul, your 80/20 statistic was made up on the spot, right? Watch Fox all day, it's more 80/20 in the other direction. Still laughing?
And I had two post a few days ago about Headline News and thei bias here and here. I was also once in the Bay News newspaper in Brooklyn, doesn't mean they don't love their Democrats.
Posted by: Karol at October 23, 2004 04:11 PM


