...or it means that they don't want to associate "pro-Israel" with neo-cons and Republicans, because that might begin to make the Republican party look good to a big chunk of the Democratic base.

Why is that nonsense ? I think it is fair to say that neocons are pro-Israel.

Von Bek, at this point in history it's fairly well-known that people who throw the dumb neo-con label around are indicating that the said neo-con is a Jew. We get it. Everyone gets it. For Galloway to add the 'pro-Israel' in there is like drawing us a picture. And, hate to break it to you, but the Iraq war has near zero to do with Israel. Anyone claiming it does probably wants to draw nefarious connections. Also, Americans have already learned the European code for 'I hate Jews'. It's 'I'm anti-Zionism'. MSM couldn't let their new hero go down in flames so early.

I don't quite buy that since I lump a number of Gentiles into neocons, like a lot of the gang at First Things for example (Father Neuhauss strikes me as a liberal mugged by reality).

"And, hate to break it to you, but the Iraq war has near zero to do with Israel."

Did I say Iraq had anything to do with Israel ? While it was in Israel's strategic interests to see Hussein go down, it was also in the interests of a lot other countries including our own.

I think "pro-Israel" not only describes the neocons but most Americans.

And I'm not sure about equating anti-Zionism with anti-Semetism. I think Zionism applies that the Jews are the chosen people of God. I think a lot of people, namely us goyim, would have problems with that. I think we can be pro Isreal without having to buy into the theology.

When you wrote "this kooky blogger," I just assumed the link would be to Dawn Summers.

Zionism does not imply any such thing. It implies that the Jews should live in Israel and that is all. Since the Jews already live in Israel, Zionism has started to mean the belief that Jews should remain there. Anti-Zionism is usually anti-Semitic: Everyone else can have their own land, but not those Jews. I've argued before that to be anti-Zionism is to actually be for the destruction of the Jewish people, since Israel is there for the defense of the Jews.

Did I say Iraq had anything to do with Israel ? While it was in Israel's strategic interests to see Hussein go down, it was also in the interests of a lot other countries including our own. No, but that's Galloway's point.

I get what you're saying about the chosen people etc, even though the word Zionism does not relate, but Europeans are generally pretty religion-free. When Galloway talks about the Joooooooos or Zionism, he isn't worried that someone is implying he won't have a place in heaven.

Ah, my apologies then. I certainly accpet your definition of Zionism then as my definiton of pro-Israel.

And I'm sure there is a joke about the Jooooooos being Israeli cows but I can't quite seem to come up with it.

"I think "pro-Israel" not only describes the neocons but most Americans."

I think most Americans are much more "anti-terrorist" than "pro-Israel".

Methinks if the Palestinians en-masse took a non-violent and lawful approach to their fight, you could very well have the US split on the resolution.