What a homophobe, he should be spit roasted, the bigot!!!

I bet all those people who slept with their boss to get promoted are feelin' pretty damn stupid right now.

Turns out, all they had to do was "choose" to be something that their boss "hates" and it's up, up, up the ladder we go!!

Yeah. If only they were born earlier, Larry King and Woody Allen would've been Hitler's right-hand-men.

Did he ask him whether he practiced the ". . . you know. . . act" or whether he was a good gay and stayed celebate.

For the record, I think it was DL kinda said something to that effect in one of his 121 comments.

I would expect him to have a don't-ask-don't-tell policy regarding his sexual exploits. I mean, do you really want to know about any of your co-workers sex lives anyway?

Ok, the day I temped at Ford Models, I did. But that's about it.

Jay, I have that same policy with many of my friends since I stopped dating women.

Well, as the Senator himself says:

"I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts ... I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone who's homosexual."

So I guess his cognitive dissonance is alive and well.

Seriously, is a ballerina who doesn't dance (at least just a little) a ballerina? Which act is that? I could list a few. Yet, if we're butt sex, and he is a straight man, it's a good thing he doesn't like it.

Not to let myself get totally lewd, if you're against sodomy you can't really claim you have no problem with homosexuals . . or at least those not into self-loathing.

Maybe the distinction is mostly academic, but it's there. I mean, I was heterosexual when I was 4, but I wasn't getting any.

Ok, I was.

Yes, but the distinction is meaningless. The act defines the condition. If you're anti-gay-sex you're anti-gay.

So, theoretically (and only theoretically) he might approve of gay marriage, but think the government should regulate consensual adult sexual behavior (i.e.: sodomy). . . that's twisted.

Well, if an 'act' must define a 'condition,' then the act would be "being sexually attracted to people of the same sex."

I mean, otherwise no virgin could claim to be homo- or heterosexual, and that's just silly.

So, if you are homosexual better stay a virgin. If you're straight, that's fine. That is what's silly.

Who in their right mind defines their entire essence by a sex act -- gay or straight?

Common ll, that is the distinction between hetrosexuals and homosexuals. ergo, perhaps, the "sexuals"

My essance isn't that I'm bisexual, hetrosexual or homosexual, but it is a really damn big part of me. So, yeah, of course a lot of me is dictated by the focus of my desire.

ll... thank you. Part of the reason I find it hard to associate with a lot of the gay community is 'cause their entire worlds seem to revolve around just being gay.

I honestly don't see how they do it. It's gotta be exhausting "being gay" 24 hours a day.

Every now and then ya' gotta kick back with a beer and watch some Yankees.

Every now and then ya' gotta kick back with a beer and watch some Yankees.

Chad, I love you.

I'm bowing out at comment 17 to go smoke a cigarette, take a sail, drink a margarita on the rocks with salt at my local bar (not a gay bar), see what the Red Sox are up to after Sunday's unfortunate last inning and do all those other things I do not as a gay man, but as a normal guy. Yet, when someone in a position of Supreme Court justice that the sex I enjoy most of the time (as a bisexual) is criminal, I'm going to stop and dive into my raging faginess to object. We're not all gay 24-a-day. We're just all gay, out and ready to fight when some zealout hater comes in and takes a critical part of something we already taken such huge strides to come to terms with ourselves.

Karol, right back at ya' babe.

I just hope our respective football teams won't drive a wedge into this true love of ours.

Oh, don't thank me, Chad. I think I just torpedoed your future as a straight porn star.

ll, I just quit that industry, so don't worry about it. Too much sex. Not enough art.

Toby - Just for the record, I never said ALL were 24/7 gays. The majority that I've come across however, are. By 24/7 gays I mean those primarly concerned with what club to go to, who they think would give the better hummer (Brad Pitt or Colin Ferell), and creating drama when really no drama is to be had. These people tend to be extremely self-centered, only caring about events in the country or the world that would effect them and/or their gayness.

I am painting with a rather broad brush, but that's just my experience in New York so far.

I just hope our respective football teams won't drive a wedge into this true love of ours.

Uh oh, who do you like?

Well, I don't disagree with you wholly. I do think there is a lot of that here. For christ sake guy, stop with the showtunes already!! ;-)

Patriots!! (and not because Brady is hot... well, not totally because Brady is hot).

God... I almost hesitate to say for fear of ending this burgeoning relationship of ours, but....

I gotta stay true to the closest team in my home state, so...

Go Eagles!

But, I like showtunes.

Tobes, if you're a Sox fan, you can't be all gay.

I mean, all bad. :)

Ay Papi!

Wow. I'm fairly shocked at the sheer number of people who don't yet understand this very simple ethic. The shorthand is "hate the sin but love the sinner." Somebody like Santorum can be totally opposed to homosexuality in every way and still have no problem whatsoever with anybody who happens to be gay.

We've gotta distinguish between the lifestyle and the person here, fellas.

I guess Jeff is saying that he never had a blowjob. How sad.

Karol - That guy you linked to is a moron. He doesn't know the difference between what's private and public.

Being gay is PUBLIC, i.e. who you're dating, who you went to the movies with last night, which people you think are attractive, etc.

What is PRIVATE are sex acts. Like exactly what you did in the sack last night.

Nobody blinks an eye what a straight person's sexuality is discussed as in "John Roberts has been married for 24 years and has two kids". Straight people always get their sexuality out there in about two seconds.

But straight bigots expect gay people to keep their sexuality hidden as if it's some deep dark secret that we should be ashamed of. Um - sorry - we don't live in the 1950's anymore.

How soon till we have ll quoting from Neo-Nazi Paul Cameron again...

I have no idea who Paul Cameron is, DL. You're the one who must subscribe to all the nazi literature. And since you started with your bullshit again, why don't you read to us from the latest issue of NAMBLA, you lifetime member you!

"Hate the sin, love the sinner." - bullshit.

Just go use ur hatred to make the act underlying my preference illegal. You don't love the sinner at all.

Anyone who predicted that ll would use Paul Cameron data with the very first post is now the winner!!!

She's too stupid to even realize WHEN she's peddling neo-nazi propaganda.

Wish I could conduct a similar contest. However, it's a given you would call someone a neo-nazi with your very first post, DL.

show tunes = neo-nazi propaganda. Who knew?

I'll let readers make up their own mind.

Here are some Paul Cameron quotes:

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hatespeech/cameron.html

Read the disgusting (and false) stats on child molestation in the above link.

Then take a look at ll's prior quote.

She continues to spread the lie that because I'm gay, I therefore molest children.

She then denies that she's doing this, which is quite strange, because the evidence is available in the threads above for everyone to see.

If someone repeatedly brings up the claim that gay people are child molesters, thus trying to demonize gay people - they are engaging in the exact same tactics that the Nazis did to Jews.

You can see a side by side comparison of how Jews were treated by the Nazis and how gays are treated today by the religious right.

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hitler/hitler.html

Thus, it is not illogical at all to say that someone who engages in these tactics is a Neo-Nazi. It is a fact.

I will never make accusations like that unless I actually see someone engaging in those tactics, which is exactly what ll is doing.

Gitmo is to Gulag

As

Hitler killing 6 million Jews is to the Religious Right killing 6... million...... gays?

I didn't see that in the papers....

.... odd.

She then denies that she's doing this, which is quite strange, because the evidence is available in the threads above for everyone to see.

No, DL, the evidence available in the threads proves that I am giving you a taste of your own medicine hoping you will learn from it. My mistake was overestimating your intelligence.

If someone repeatedly brings up the claim that gay people are child molesters, thus trying to demonize gay people - they are engaging in the exact same tactics that the Nazis did to Jews.

If someone repeatedly lies and claims people are nazis and uses other slurs, thus trying to demonize anyone who doesn't agree with him a 100% – they are engaging in the exact same tactics of every other demagogue who ever lived, including the nazis. Therefore, they should not whine when they are treated in-kind.

You can see a side by side comparison of how Jews were treated by the Nazis and how gays are treated today by the religious right . . .

. . . and how DL treats anyone he dislikes or disagrees with him or doesn't agree with him 100%.

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/downtownlad/downtownlad.html

Thus, it is not illogical at all to say that someone who engages in these tactics is a Neo-Nazi. It is a fact.

Downtown Lad is a Neo-Nazi. It's a fact.

I will never make accusations like that unless I actually see someone engaging in those tactics, which is exactly what ll is doing.

Downtown Lad to English Translation: I make-up accusations and lies about people who don't agree with me. Not only am I, Downtown Lad a big fat liar, I'm a big fat whiner, too.

I'm not going to get into this again. Anyone can read the above threads and make up their own mind. One particular commenter on this thread happens to be using the worst (and false) stereotypes about gay people to malign a gay person. Make of it what you want to.

Chad - I said Neo-nazi. I never said they were Hitler reincarnate. So your comparisons are not apt. Rather - they are just lame haters who hold a grudge against a particular group of society, in this case gays.

I don't think neo-nazis are especially dangerous. Pathetic is a better term.

Again Chad - I'll point you to the link (which ll tried to obscure, which should tell you something) if you want to learn more about this. I think you'd find it rather enlightening.

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hitler/hitler.html

ll - I'll extend an olive branch and offer a truth if you willing to clarify what your stance is on gay rights. Perhaps I have jumped to an incorrect conclusion earlier.

Here's my position on gay rights: Any gay person who repeatedly tells lies about me, falsely attributes statements and motives to me, and directs all out demagoguery towards me will be treated in-kind. And I hold the same position on heterosexual rights, bisexual rights, asexual rights, and those who elect to not disclose their sexual preferences rights. hth
http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/downtownlad/downtownlad.html

Okie dokie. Olive branch withdrawn.

43 comments! We're well on the way to that 187 goal. :-)

Ha ha Karol. I think it's really the same subject, so I think this counts as 230 posts!

Okie dokie. Olive branch withdrawn.

It was never extended. You are not as clever as you imagine yourself to be.

Yawn.

For christ sake, (or nazi sake for that matter):

Downtownlad: 87

LL: 87

Tie game, double overtime ended, GAME DA F&*K over!

You're too funny Toby.

Thank you my alleged nazi pedophile friend ;-)

Anyone who predicted that ll would use Paul Cameron data with the very first post is now the winner!!!

YES! YES! Yesyesyesyesyes. I win. I am teh winnah.

Seriously though, are you really expecting a serious debate?

Nope. Just trying to get Karol to 200 comments!

That will make Ace totally jealous of her for sure.

What makes a gay person work for such a bigot? Is it really a case of self loathing? Makes me wonder.

Nope. Just trying to get Karol to 200 comments!

Okie doke. Here's one more for the cause.