October 09, 2005
Party Foul (By guest blogger Candace)
This weekend I went to a party that a friend of mine was hosting. Most people didn't seem to know each other, outside of a few small groups who worked in politics together, but they were socializing pretty well. About an hour into the party, a nice young man stepped in who didn't seem to know anyone but the host. He nonetheless made his way around the room, meeting everyone, mixing drinks, talking with people about where they're from and how they knew my friend and our recent trips and pending record deals and the amazing icky gooey dessert that was brought out with great fanfare. I had no reason to think he was "different" from anyone else at the party, except maybe that he was uncommonly social and pleasantly not network-y.
As the party continued, and people kept drinking, they started talking politics -- on some level inevitable, I suppose. But I was unprepared for what I would see when the host suddenly shouted out, "Yeah, well that guy? He's GAY!"
You'd think that in an urban environment like this one, people would have seen a gay man before, or at least that if they hadn't, they'd be curious about him and how they had so failed earlier on in the night to detect that this charming young man was not one of them. The problem was, this was a gathering of people who have spent years convincing themselves that gays are responsible for all the world's evils and couldn't possibly be human.
He was immediately cornered by the hostess. "So, you must hate women," she retorted to nothing. He protested that her statement was an unfair judgment, but she would have none of it. Past the point when most sensible people would run, he stood there, nodding and listening and refusing to answer her questions until she got so frustrated that she just walked away from him. It was pretty clear that it was time for him to leave, so he made the rounds to say goodbye to others in the room who he'd been so friendly with earlier in the night. One couple, who he'd talked to extensively, asked him, "So, just tell us this: were you molested as a child?"
At this point, the young man smiled and neatly held himself just on this side of exploded, countering that, in fact, he had terrific parents who loved him very much and had a very normal life. The boyfriend started yelling, "You're full of shit" and ran into the other room, leaving the girlfriend to make excuses for him and tell the young gay man that she in fact had nothing against him, but that she felt very strongly that his behavior was morally wrong. And then she made an elaborate case for becoming heterosexual.
I should have seen this experience coming in this town, but it still shocked me. It demonstrates the results of human arrogance: the inability to tolerate the presence of those who are different from you, like proselytizers who will accept your friendship on condition of conversion, like whites who accepted only those "coloreds" who could "pass" or were otherwise not like the rest of them, like gays who denounce bisexuals. They are like those who will only befriend Arabs who denounce Palestine, or Jews who hate Sharon, or Democrats who hate Dean, or women who don't challenge the status quo. They are everywhere, and they are everywhere so stuffed full of self-righteousness that they have no idea that however justified they feel in their beliefs, their behavior is dehumanizing. They are a dime a dozen in this town and dominate most communities -- indeed, they form communities with explicit boundaries (activist groups, political parties, churches) and then proceed to denounce other communities (activist groups, political parties, churches) for having explicit boundaries, considering themselves above such behavior. And I am sick to death of these people.
The above story is entirely true, and I can repeat it over and over with different people in different situations, only this weekend it wasn't a gay man, it was me, and the room wasn't full of fundamentalists, but DNC employees, and I wasn't accused of being molested, I was accused, alternatively, of being anti-gay, racist, and "rich" (having clearly been purchased by the Republican Party with a $50,000 tax return check) and was notified that, despite my utter politeness and relatively very well-developed social skills, I was probably not welcome anymore.
It's intolerance, ignorance, and hate, no matter which side of which proverbial aisle you're sitting on. And the worst part is, it happens all of the time, and no one is willing to admit that they are doing it.
Posted by Candace at October 9, 2005 12:38 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags: Republicans Democrats Discrimination Politics
That's awful...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rachel at October 9, 2005 01:40 PMWhere the hell was the party? The deep south?
Posted by: WC Varones at October 9, 2005 03:08 PMOops... I commented before I read the punchline.
Posted by: WC Varones at October 9, 2005 03:10 PMAbsolutely terrible. Absolutely too common. I'm sorry you (and so many of us) have to deal with that kind of thing so often. Thank you for writing beautifully about it.
Posted by: J.Kende at October 9, 2005 03:13 PMI was at a gathering in the UWS a few month ago where the hostess claimed that she never met a Republican growing up. I asked where she was from and she said Queens. Now, I am from Queens so it really made me really question whether this woman ever talked to anyone outside a close circle of like-minded friends. This mindset is all too common among liberal Democrats and Candace's story seems all too typical.
Posted by: Dan at October 9, 2005 03:49 PMAbsolutely fabulous post.
A similar thing happened to us.
A classical music ensemble asked Mrs. Jake to be on their board because we gave them some startup money-until the Director learned she was a Republican. He withdrew the invitation because the musicians would not allow Republicans on the board. This attitude doomed them to failure because:
1. They needed practical advice, and Democrats don't have a practical thought in their heads.
2. Republicans give money. Democrats only take it.
Sure enough, 5 months later the ensemble had to disband.
Sorry you had to endure that.
The only folks that need to be busting chairs over each other, so to speak, are fans of rival sports teams.
Ulitmately, your encounter merely highlights why I find politics to be more or less icky.
Posted by: Shawn at October 9, 2005 05:17 PMIt comes down to this:
Based upon their opinions of social policy and foreign affairs, I think most Democrats are wrong.
Democrats, however, based on the opinions I have about those topcis, are convinced that I am evil.
Foolishly, we Republicans approach the situation rationally.
Posted by: Sean at October 9, 2005 09:58 PMAlthough I'd pick Economics and Foreign Affairs instead of Social issues, you are totally right about 'wrong' vs 'evil'. You can usually split a crowd easily based only on their reaction to the concept of 'making sense'.
Posted by: J.Kende at October 9, 2005 11:01 PMI am glad this comment train did not become what it could have been, although I should be clear that I do not in any way mean to imply that this is a Democrat syndrome. It's not. And while for me, as a relatively conservative person who has always been in a liberal environment, the experience in the twist is nothing new, I hope that the point should not be lost: I could have flipped all those terms, or simply kept the original story (also close to true experiences I've been in/witnessed).
In other words, intolerance is not a Democrat disease, it's a human one. It just happens to be particularly hypocritical in their case.
Posted by: candy girl at October 10, 2005 02:26 AMYou'd have received the same reception on this side of the river. Had you added 'pro-life Christian' to your resume, you'd never have made it out alive. This closed-minded provincialism is made worse because the most cherished belief of people in this area is that it is their tolerance and broad-mindedeness that demonstrates their superiority to the rest of the country. This is the most sacred of cows, which you threaten at your peril.
Posted by: Mr. Snitch! at October 10, 2005 05:06 AMNice W.C. you reiterated the point of Candace's post with your view of the South.
Posted by: Michael C at October 10, 2005 07:52 AMThere are a few aspects to this post that I can't agree with.
The first is that I do not see how being a Republican and being gay can be compared. The first is a political choice. The second is not.
Secondly, the anecdote is told in the third person. We are led to believe that everyone at the party liked the homosexual guest. But it turns out that the narrator is actually the gay protagonist. If this is the case, how can she know that everyone liked her at first? Perhaps they were only being polite and her outing was merely the catalyst for something which had been building from the start.
Thirdly, the gay anecdote does not entirely match the actual situation. A homosexual at a party full of heterosexuals is hardly a parallel for a Republican at a party full of DNC employees. Perhaps a better analogy would have been a homosexual at a party thrown by members of Focus on the Family.
Yes, there is an awful lot of intolerance, ignorance, and hate in the world. But I'm not sure that this is quite the best example of it. In fact, I rather think that Candace's assumption that the partygoers regarded homosexuals (ie Republicans) as "responsible for all the world's evils and couldn't possibly be human" is the same way many Democrats assume they are viewed by Republicans.
Pots and kettles. Heat and kitchens.
Posted by: Englishman in New York at October 10, 2005 03:03 PMDem sites continually issue the most vile assessments of how they and their ideas are treated by Republicans. Usually the remarks are along the lines of 'stifling dissent'. But most dissent is stifled in left-leaning chatrooms, and there's no namecalling quite like that in the Daily Kos. No, Karol's example was adequate, and the assumption that this incident took place in the "Deep South" does indeed advance her point. Saul Steinberg's famous drawing of Manhattan myopia, while amusing, also has its darker aspects. (And as I said previously it's not neatly bound by Manhhattan's borders.) Most folks carry some sort of narrow worldview and woe to those who threaten it. Welcome to political reality.
Posted by: Mr. Snitch! at October 10, 2005 03:21 PMEnglishman! Exactly! Both the pot and kettle are black! That's exactly the point. And everything we do is a choice, but I think most people hold their political beliefs close enough that they are part of who they are. I would hope that someone's "outing" as gay/bisexual/Democrat/Republican/Christian/Muslim/from Tennessee does not, for everyone, trump their other characteristics.
As for whether or not people like me, let's give one another the benefit of the doubt and also not assume stupidity. Most people are aware enough to notice when a dynamic changes, and when people shift from offering you drinks and asking about your life to threatening to throw you off the balcony, something has changed -- or, more appropriately, something has surfaced.
I would not "change" my beliefs to make someone like me any more than the typical homosexual would "change" his/her sexuality to make friends, although there are people in all groups who do it.
The bottom line is that there are people who have beliefs and values and are capable of not hating those who disagree or live differently, and there are narrowminded people who are not. And the ones who go to work in politics, who devote their lives to promoting intolerant figures like Howard Dean, who will say to a Republican's face that they are manifestly evil, are the latter. And they are not the minority.
Posted by: candy girl at October 10, 2005 04:52 PMBut surely the narrow-minded people you speak of are just as abundant on both sides.
Posted by: Englishman in New York at October 10, 2005 05:13 PMI never claimed otherwise. Made a point of it, in fact.
Posted by: candy girl at October 10, 2005 07:32 PMNY dems are bold and aggressive, and republicans are reserved and passive(i know these are generalities). This is a dem town and they feel empowered. If this were Texas, it would be the republicans who would be bold and aggressive. The problem is still that the left has a poor outlook on reality and how it affects them, and how they can affect it. The left is very "conceptual" and i think that is a defensive approch to life. However reality is all powerful and "concepts" as interseting as they may be, can not stand up to reality, so the left becomes very angry because(these are my personal estimations, please dont make this a mathematical argument)i believe that the left feels their conceptual view of the world is equal to a practical view of the world, but i believe the world is 80% reality and 20% concept. We need the concepts to advance but just like a corporation, it may need R&D to advance, but the R&D department cant run the show. The left represents a very important 20% of the equation, but until the world understands that it is still just 20%, we will have too many 20%ers gumming up the works.
Posted by: Pheeleepok at October 11, 2005 11:34 AMCandy, I think you've just given me a great idea for a story! Thanks.
Posted by: Englishman in New York at October 11, 2005 12:12 PMCandy, if you're at all interested, I turned my thoughts into this post.
Posted by: Englishman in New York at October 11, 2005 03:56 PMEINY, I like you.
Posted by: candy girl at October 11, 2005 05:27 PMWell done Candace! Beautiful exposure of the double standards propagated among the liberal elitists. Bravo!
Posted by: Don at October 12, 2005 03:40 AM


