October 13, 2005
Why do I have to read a Thai newspaper for optimistic words on Iraq?
If Iraq of the future devolves into civil conflict, tomorrow's election makes it more likely that the battles will be on the political stumps, and not in the streets. In any case, the citizens of every country have the right to set the course of their nation, vote for their leaders and demand daily accountability from the representatives elected. A vote for the new constitution, a vote against it or a reasoned, thinking decision not to vote _ all of these move forward both democracy and freedom in Iraq.It is remarkable that a country so violently torn by daily bombs and battles can debate, write and then vote on a national constitution. Last May, a nationwide poll in Iraq determined that 59% of Iraqis believed the country was better off than before the US invasion, and 76% said they and their families were personally better off. There had been predictions that the US invasion would galvanise Muslims against the rest of the world, but the Pew Global Attitudes Project reported last July that Muslim public opinion was increasingly against the Islamists. Security will be tight in Iraq, and presumably violence will continue, as it did during the parliamentary elections last January. Everyone should wish the Iraqis well in their decision to take another brave step towards democracy.Posted by Karol at October 13, 2005 11:12 PM | TrackBack
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"Why do I have to read a Thai newspaper for optimistic words on Iraq?"
The Bangkok Post believes in freedom and democracy.
Our left-wing newspapers do not believe in freedom and democracy especially for those who are not white.
It is that simple.
Posted by: Jake at October 13, 2005 11:32 PMMaybe they drink Kool-Aid in Bangkok
Posted by: Dennis at October 14, 2005 12:47 AMWell, to be honest, there is a pretty rough-and-tumble democracy in their country: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:qbu5wVqvvOQJ:www.mcot.org/query.php%3Fnid%3D32778&hl=en
Posted by: Joe Grossberg at October 14, 2005 10:12 AMThe Thais may not have much sympathy for Islamist terroirsm because Thailand currently under attack by a Saudi/Libyan trained 3000-man paramilitary "insurgent" army.
http://whataretheysaying.powerblogs.com/posts/1129218782.shtml
More than 500 people in Thailand have died as a result of this war. It's the largest Islamist paramilitary operation outside of Iraq. These Saudi/Libyan trained soldiers are beheading monks, burning down girls schools and generally trying to turn Southern Thailand into a caliphate.
This is the standard Islamist invasion tactic that allowed Islamists to take over most of Northern Africa, and, like most of the Islamist invasions, our goverment and our press will sit around and watch it happen. Even the Thais don't want to upset their Saudi/Libyan "allies".
Posted by: mary at October 14, 2005 10:42 AM"Why do I have to read a Thai newspaper for optimistic words on Iraq?"
Probably because Iraq is going to hell in a handbasket, and only a completely brainwashed idiot would tell you otherwise.
What completely brainwashed idiot stole Don Myers ID and posted that crap.
Posted by: Ed Poinsett at October 14, 2005 07:32 PMDon, you've pretty much telegraphed your position as a far-leftist. Disdain for other points of view and personal insults to those who hold them are sure signs of that.
I remember seeing quite a bit of that in college in the '60's. "If you're not a part of the solution, you're a part of the problem" = my way or the highway. "Your position is evil, therefore YOU are evil" = demonize the opposition.
I thought then that those who thought like that would eventually understand that a vigorous EXCHANGE of ideas promoted real solutions. It's been four decades, and it just hasn't happened.
I'm a liberal democrat who believes that classic liberal ideas can stand up to debate, and that treating those who disagree is a major first step toward bringing them over to my point of view.
You have to be careful that you don't move so far left that you'll occupy the lunatic fringe. There you'll find the people most like yourself will be the far rightists who made the same mistake.
Posted by: Larry Faria at October 14, 2005 08:52 PMMore than 500 people in Thailand have died as a result of this war. It's the largest Islamist paramilitary operation outside of Iraq.
Larger than MILF in the Phillippines?
These Saudi/Libyan trained soldiers are beheading monks, burning down girls schools and generally trying to turn Southern Thailand into a caliphate.
I'd venture a guess that under dhimmitude, Buddhists would have it worse than Jews.
Posted by: Shawn at October 14, 2005 11:23 PMI guess this is turning into an open thread on Thailand which may in fact be going to hell in a handbasket. I guess the Islamists didn't get the memo that Saudi-stlye beheadings are out. They're still stuck on stupid. At least they've learned they can't start a knife fight and then hide in a mosque.
Posted by: d-rod at October 15, 2005 12:00 AMDon, how many years have you spent in Iraq? Oh, none?
Typical. Leftist always think that if they are shrill, their utterances will prevail. And it worked for decades.
But not anymore.
Hang up the ponytail the '60's are over.
PS, when are you guys/gals going to free Tibet?
Larger than MILF in the Phillippines?
From an article describing the torture and murder of two Thai soldiers, which was aided by Muslim women and children:
"Suspected Islamist insurgents avoided capture after torturing to death two Thai marines by beating and stabbing the bound-and-gagged victims behind a human shield of defiant Muslim women and children, horrifying the government and plunging southern Thailand into a fresh security crisis."
"Amid the world's most violent Islamist insurgency outside Iraq, angry and confused security forces hunted the elusive killers, described as three or four young men who ran away, leaving the marines' bloodied bodies in Tanyong Limo village."
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It's bloodier, but I'm not really sure if it's literally the largest. This site keeps track of terrorist attacks around the world.
I'd venture a guess that under dhimmitude, Buddhists would have it worse than Jews
Anybody who can't effectively defend themselves usually has it worse, I'd guess.
Posted by: mary at October 15, 2005 11:05 AMProbably nothing we can imagine could be worse than being bombed by the imperialist origami birds from hell.
Posted by: d-rod at October 15, 2005 11:23 PM


