November 27, 2005
Baaaaaaad beat
I am dealt pocket aces in small blind midway through a tournament. There are two callers and then a small raise from the button. I think about reraising but decide to slow play my bullets (don't start with me people, you're about to see it wouldn't make a bit of difference). The flop is K K 10. Ok, yes, I'm in trouble. I check, as do the other 3 players. The turn is an A. I check, the second guy checks, third guy goes all in and the fourth guy calls.
So, clearly I'm calling. I've got the nut full house and I could not be happier about it. I call. The last guy thinks it over and then folds his cards face up: QJ for the straight. The first guy had pocket 10s and, of course, the second guy had pocket kings. "Well, you've still got an out," said a friendly guy at my table. That's true, I could pull the fourth ace for a four of a kind. And I'd love to tell you that that's what happened. But then this post wouldn't be called 'Bad Beat'.
Posted by Karol at November 27, 2005 08:50 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags: Poker Hold+Em Texas+Hold+Em Bad+Beats+Poker
I see your bad beat and i raise you...post to come.
Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 27, 2005 09:17 PMNDS: Linguistically speaking, is it a bad beat when you call someone all in on a set with two pair?
Posted by: Alceste at November 27, 2005 11:31 PMWell, on its face I think you played it right. But since it was a tourney, there are more questions to ask:
1) How were you in relation to the average stack?
2) How was the guy with pocket kings?
3) What's the temperament of pocket kings guy?
However, I don't think there was any way either of you could've gotten away from that hand. So, the optimal result (if you played the hand perfectly, which you might have) is probably no different from the actual result.
Posted by: Jay at November 28, 2005 02:23 AMNo way should the pocket nines guy have called my 20 times the bb raise. I had a strangehold on him preflop and there's no way i could have put him on a set or a straight since i wouldn't expect any of those cards to call a 20 times the bb raise...grrr.
Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 28, 2005 10:46 AMWasn't the optimal result for NDS to fold after the flop? Yes, half of her stack is already in there, but her opponent had hit a set (which I think you almost have to assume by the all-in bet). NDS had a good chance of making the money back quickly as a better player than most of the folk in the party tourney and not having to worry about having her stack wasted by the blinds.
Posted by: Alceste at November 28, 2005 12:35 PM
