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December 20, 2005

New York Shutdown

Apparently, the transit strike is on.

If we're going to look for a bright side to this debacle, which will cost the city millions, it's that I've heard so many of my liberal friends slam the Transport Workers Union. I like that people get to see what Unions really are, and what they really do. What private sector employee gets a mandatory 8% non-performancep-based raise each year? What private sector employee has a standard retirement age of 55? How does driving a train or a bus entitle someone to these types of benefits? And then when they don't get what they demand, they shut the city down and make us look like Paris. It's just not right, and I'm happy people are starting to recognize that.

Update: Evan Coyne Maloney has a phenomenal post on the subject.

Another Update: GOP and the City, Robert George and Red Guy in a Blue State have more.

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We're all screwed and at least a few of us are insomniacs.

Under the Taylor Act, the public union employees can not only be fined, but they can also be fired.
(I guess the reason why the union thugs support gun control is obvious. They don't want to be fired at.)

While we are at it, we should pass a Right to Work Act. (I must be sleep typing; RTW in New York?!)

Posted by: RonL at December 20, 2005 04:45 AM

I was going to write a post that said 'I stay up too late' but then I thought that was obvious.

Posted by: Karol at December 20, 2005 04:47 AM

It doesn't matter whether someone is French or American, people are reluctant to give up what they consider to be their "right". Whether that's the 150,000+ French farmers who each receive a minimum of €20,000 a year subsidy, the millions of UK public sectors who wish to retire at 60 on 75% pay, or the New York bus and train drivers.

On the defence for them I would suggest it has been a bumper year economically for many New Yorkers. I imagine NY payouts to financial sector workers were much like London (where over 1000 received a bonus of £1million). I imagine NY is a bit like London in that its expensive to live there - yet some key jobs (healthcare, teachers, police, transport workers) pay lousy wages.

Posted by: Monjo at December 20, 2005 06:00 AM

Oh yes those nasty union thugs who in those good old days had to endure the police in the back pocket of business, nothing like a good police skull cracking to remind you why you are out walking the line.

Quit your sobbing and understand that a workers right to free association is one of the primary functions of a democracy. Christ, Thomas Jefferson recognized the tyranny of wealth and the inequitable power that "old money" and business leaders hold over the worker.

Union workers are just being good little capitalists, getting as much equity as they can while limiting the amount they expend. . . that's capitalism folks.

Posted by: Towoozy at December 20, 2005 06:12 AM

Preach it.

Posted by: Sam at December 20, 2005 08:53 AM

Local 100 is a rogue outfit. Both the parent union and the international union advised them that they would not support a work stoppage. Even ORGANIZED LABOR is against this thing.

Posted by: J Philip at December 20, 2005 09:10 AM

Reagan and Thatcher would have fired these bums. Too bad NY Republicans don't have any backbone.

Posted by: Dan at December 20, 2005 09:25 AM

New Yorkers, most of whom never met a piece of government intervention they didn't like, soooooo deserve this strike! The chance to watch this is a Christmas present for the rest of us.

Enjoy paying the ransom for the next 30 years, after your politicians cave in yet again to the unions.

Posted by: ZF at December 20, 2005 09:32 AM

Funny thing is - you say that the strike will cost the city millions of dollars - so that means they have damn important jobs - pay them accordingly.

Posted by: haha at December 20, 2005 09:49 AM

Towoozy, if this were a situation where free markets and freedom of association were at work, the city would be able to fire every worker who didn't show up today and replace them with someone willing to work. Instead, the union can put city government over a barrel because they have a federally-enforced monopoly over the labor supply for the transit system. That, in turn, puts the citizens of New York over a barrel because of laws that keep the private sector out and give city government a monopoly over mass transit. Check out this backgrounder on the Institute for Justice website, to get a sense of how entrenched interests like the union and the transit bureaucracy have worked to keep entrepreneurs from meeting the need for safe and reliable transportation: http://www.ij.org/economic_liberty/nyc_vans/backgrounder.html

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Posted by: cube at December 20, 2005 10:12 AM

Rediculous, K. This strike is about none of those issues. I agree with you, and I've never been a fan of union requisites, but this strike is about two things: Health Care and Pensions.

Health Care and Pensions are at crisis levels in this country, not only for transportation workers, but for the entire working and middle class. Just this year my health care premiums rose 30% when I switched jobs. That blows.

The MTA is faced with the same dillema private industry is faced with -- their health care costs are rising rapidly too.

Posted by: toby at December 20, 2005 11:03 AM

So we have strike. Let have a good one, fire everyone, arrest the union leader, and rehire everyone back who want to work. Where are the Pinkington when we need them. I heard they have a good history of busting strike.

Posted by: Anh at December 20, 2005 11:03 AM

Hi Karol. Another NYU conservative in the house! (Ok, NYU alumni).

Toby, I'd be inclined to agree with you if the workers already paid 1/3 and were being asked to pay more. Health care costs in this country are crazy. But I'm not sure if you're aware that the MTA workers currently pay NOTHING, while most private-sector workers pay as much as you mentioned you did. And their contribution is only going up to 1%, which on their $50-60k salaries can't be all that bad.

If you look at it relatively, the TWU has a lot less to complain about regarding their work situation than most other workers in NY. And if we must look at it from a "liberal" perspective, the ones who will suffer most are the poor--the hourly workers who work for assholes who will fire them or lay them off if they can't come in. The ones for whom $50 a day for a cab is their entire day's salary (or more).

I'm not complaining because I make a livable amount and I can walk to work. But the people who truly ARE oppressed here are not the MTA workers, but the working poor who will suffer from the strike.

Posted by: Marian Shah at December 20, 2005 11:12 AM

So, everyone get's to play hooky today. I shd be so lucky.

Posted by: LL at December 20, 2005 11:21 AM

LL:

Hooky? I walked 3 miles to work today. Almost everyone in my office made it in to work. Some people had to walk a lot farther than I did.

This strikes sucks. I hope they fire all the transit workers and replace them with workers with a more professional attitude.

Dan

Posted by: Dan at December 20, 2005 11:57 AM

Make notes of who the Transport Workers Union has endorsed in past elections, or who they intend to endorse for future elections. Let those candidates and their opponents know how the union's stamp approval makes you feel. (Include a donation, if appropriate to your feelings and legal under campaign finance law.)

A strike that has this kind of effect on the city should have a commensurate effect on the Transport Workers Union's political influence. If you're behind them, make sure nobody gets elected in NYC without their approval. If not, make their endorsement the kiss of death.

That's the only way they'll learn.

Posted by: Gib at December 20, 2005 12:04 PM

this strike is about two things: Health Care and Pensions.

According to Roger Toussaint, president of Local 100 of the Transport Workers Union, this strike is about two things; demonstrating political power and whining about 'respect'.

"Transit workers are tired of being underappreciated and disrespected," said Roger Toussaint, president of Local 100 of the Transport Workers Union.

They even put signs up saying "We Move NY. Respect Us!" The result:

I think they all should get fired," said Eddie Goncalves, a doorman trying to get home after his overnight shift. He said he expected to spend an extra $30 per day in cab and train fares.

I agree with the doorman. If the transit workers want respect, New York needs them that they're not going to get it this way. If the city doesn't, they can expect more strikes.

Posted by: mary at December 20, 2005 12:09 PM

oops - that should be "New York needs to show them that they're not going to get it this way.."

Posted by: mary at December 20, 2005 12:11 PM

You're totally dead on. Your summation of how this is the most ridiculous strike ever, aims right for the heart of the matter. Short, sweet, and to the point.

Posted by: writersbloc gal at December 20, 2005 12:31 PM

Although the timing of this illegal strike is bothersome, it not the point! The members and leaders of this strike have refused a 3 1/2% rise in wages, demanding 8%.This is really crossing the line and is an illustration of pure greed.
As happened with the Air Control People, they should be replaced with people who have the ability to accept the responsibilties of the job.

Merry Christmas
May these strikers get "blisters" from the walk to get their "strike" benefits. rofl

Swede

Posted by: Swede at December 20, 2005 12:39 PM

These workers should be fired.

Recall what happened when MLB fired their umpires when they struck. They all came crawling back.

I suspect the transit workers would do the same after trying to land $50K jobs with no health care costs and pensions after 25 years. Looking out trian windows to make sure no one's foot is outside the door is not a very marketable skill.

Posted by: Eric at December 20, 2005 01:13 PM

I would LOVE to see the Taylor's Law penalties be enforced. Say the strike lasts three days... each member of TWU would be fined $175,000. Seize their assets, force their kids to work it off changing trashbags that conductors won't deign to handle...

Yeah, BS like this turns me into a hardass. I'd love to see some heavy billyclub action around Grand Central. That'll learn 'em.

Posted by: Jay at December 20, 2005 01:15 PM

By leaving this comment, I know I open myself up for criticism and attack, but I wouldn't expect anything less, so bring it.

I find the attitude of this post and the commentators above to be incredibly selfish. We're ALL inconvenienced by this strike and no one wants any New Yorkers to suffer through this situation.

But that being said...unions are in place so that we, the hard working, mostly under appreciated part of the community, gets the money, but more importantly, the RESPECT that we deserve. It's our one opportunity to show big business that we are human beings that mandate that we be treated as such.

As for liberals being pissed about the inconvenience...while watching all of the various coverage on my television this morning, I found the reaction from the New York City community to be completely the opposite.

So you have to figure something else out for a few days. Big deal. You're a New Yorker and you'll get through it. The TWU should not be blamed for standing up for their rights and the MTA made NO effort to budge from their typical, money hungry, control over this city. 8%??? That was DAYS ago. Much has changed and been negotiated on the side of the TWU. The MTA, with their billion dollar surplus has made VERY little, if NO movement toward the other side.

Believe what you want and stand on the side of personal convenience, but when the MTA raises the subway fare AGAIN in a year or so, promise yourself that you won't be the first one to bitch that you have to fork over another 50cents just to get to work.

GO TWU!

And Karol...you know I adore you. No matter you're political and personal beliefs. ;)

Posted by: Joe CuttheShit at December 20, 2005 02:08 PM

I've been blogging the strike, too, and it ain't about "respect." Certainly not respect for the majority of workers of NY who have to provide for their retirements through 401(k)s and who have to co-pay for their health insurance.

Last night, the MTA offered a deal with a raise of 10+% over three years. The break point was ANY contribution by future employees to the pension plan. The TWU sees it as a "gateway" benefit and if they, the self-proclaimed most militant union, have to compromise on their pensions, every union will. So while their leadership collect full salaries and make a principled point, families with children, the elderly, and the working poor suffer unequally in the cold as they are the ones with fewer options.

Meanwhile, TWU members believe their later years should be a free ride they don't have to plan for, beginning at 55 and lasting for however many decades they live. With a qualification of 25 years of service to retire at 55, we will see people living on fat pensions in excess of the years they actually worked. Is that really what was intended with the establishment of pensions during an era of much lower life expectancies? If so, getting those jobs is like winning the lottery for sure. Many low skill positions, gold-plated benefits, guaranteed raises, and all of it for life.

Posted by: Henway at December 20, 2005 02:22 PM

Local channel 7 had a guy at a metro north station this morning. They showed coverage of the TWU strikers BOARDING a metro north train so that they could get into the city to protest. Their children should get coal for Christmas (and Hanukkah and Kwanzaa and any other scenario where you give kids presents within the month of December).

Posted by: Ari at December 20, 2005 02:25 PM

Joe, you are completely adorable and I am always up for a balcony hang with you but you really could not be more wrong here.

8%??? That was DAYS ago. Much has changed and been negotiated on the side of the TWU. The MTA, with their billion dollar surplus has made VERY little, if NO movement toward the other side.

So, you admit that they began in a completely unreasonable territory?

The MTA, with their billion dollar surplus has made VERY little, if NO movement toward the other side.

Believe what you want and stand on the side of personal convenience, but when the MTA raises the subway fare AGAIN in a year or so, promise yourself that you won't be the first one to bitch that you have to fork over another 50cents just to get to work.

Um, why would they need to raise fares if they are running this huge surplus?

As for unions being protectors, etc., can you tell me what the difference is between unions and the mafia? I'm seriously asking.

Posted by: Karol at December 20, 2005 02:50 PM

Have you seen the comments on the unofficial TWU blog?

http://twulocal100.blogspot.com/

http://www.karukeion.com/static/past/2005/12/more_strike_new.html

http://environmentalrepublican.blogspot.com/2005/12/transit-workers-to-ny-screw-you.html

http://instapundit.com/archives/027614.php

Posted by: J.Kende at December 20, 2005 02:57 PM

I think a major issue that escapes most discussions on the strike is that the MTA surplus is due to a recent fare hike, and an increase in revenue due to higher-than-expected real estate taxes. This surplus is not due to efficiencies realized or productivity gains from the union employees, but due to the fare-paying commuters and, one-time externalities. This money belongs to the commuters, and belongs in the capital budget, not the operating budget. The fare hike was sold to us on the basis that it would fund capital projects. If the TWU wants fat pensions and guaranteed early retirement, let them fund it themselves by cutting their own budget.

Posted by: Bruiser at December 20, 2005 03:01 PM

The State Legislature and the New York City Council have run for cover.

They're all afraid of the unions.

Posted by: Bob Fois at December 20, 2005 03:21 PM

Karol...I love our side notes before we get into debates. I take you up on that offer and hope to hang and covertly smoke soon.

I don't think I'm wrong here. Debatable? Yes. But "wrong"? Never.

You make an interesting point when you bring up the mafia, but at the same time, it's reaching. As far as I knew, this was about a legitimate, "way it's been done for years", form of action. It's a STRIKE. Bloomberg keeps bitching about how this is all "illegal", but give me a break! If you can't challenge the law, then you don't have any rights to begin with.

It just so happens to be that this particular strike does affect you and I, where most strikes are nothing more than a news blip. That's where the personal angst is generated.

The TWU has yet to put a hit out on Kalikow, so until they do, I think that you're attributing this to a form of "Sopranos" type bullying is completely misguided. If anyone is doing the bullying here, it's the MTA.

And yes, I DO believe that they started at a completely unreasonable raise percentage. HOWEVER...WHO?...when asking for a raise goes for the low end of the increase? That's just poor strategy and something us New Yorkers have learned when trying to survive in this city.

As for the raise of fares in 2007...you're more up on current events in NYC than I am...you've read the papers...

It's NOT going to happen?

Now that's the TRUE BS of it all.

As for Ari...I don't argue with the love of my life ever. And her comments are always so brutal that I laugh and laugh.

Hangout soon! Yes? Yes.

I'll even take a $25 cab ride if need be. ;)

Posted by: Joe CuttheShit at December 20, 2005 04:15 PM

The TWU has yet to put a hit out on Kalikow, so until they do, I think that you're attributing this to a form of "Sopranos" type bullying is completely misguided. If anyone is doing the bullying here, it's the MTA.

Joe, you are so right...and without any sarcasm or nastiness...your ways confuse and inspire me.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at December 20, 2005 04:35 PM

Well, here's the thing about analogies: they aren't going to be exactly the same. While the mob puts a hit on people who don't follow their rules, unions cause a strike forcing the city to a standstill in this case.

You said that this strike affects me. Actually, it doesn't. I work from home, most of my friends live nearby and I get a ride to Brooklyn whenever I go there. So, no, I'm not personally invested. That's why it's easy for me to see unions for the corrupt, mob-like groups that they are.

Question: are you in SAG, Joe?

And finally, Joe, whenever Dawn Summers says you are right, you can take to the bank the fact that you're wrong. :-)

Posted by: Karol at December 20, 2005 04:44 PM

"workers right to free association is one of the primary functions of a democracy."

perhaps, but it's hardly free association when the transit union FORCES you to join in order to work for the mta. that's called a shakedown.

is anyone pissed at bloomberg though? it seems like there was no real plan in place to deal w/commuters during the strike other than to turn away vehicles w/o at least 4 occupants. if i wanted disorder and disorganization, i would have voted for freddie ferrer. i almost wish this happened under giuliani to see how he would have handled it.

Posted by: anna at December 20, 2005 05:02 PM

I'm actually going to take Dawn's comments for what they were since I didn't expect any sort of support on this site. Yeah? Yeah!

Karol...might I say "Checkmate"? If you're strongest debate point is that you work from home...well...then...I own you. ;)

I'm not in SAG yet Karol. But who's fault is that? SAG'S or mine? This is the way that I feel even BEFORE joining my own union.

If some day I'm making a quadrillion dollars selling my smile for REVLON (ha!), I'll still be the guy rooting for grassroots everything: strikes, theater, the man who pumps the gas...

It's the "little" people (much like myself) that keeps this city moving. You're lucky to be able to work from home...but I think that that puts you at a MAJOR disadvantage when debating this topic.

Posted by: Joe CuttheShit at December 20, 2005 05:07 PM

At my blog, I urge Mayor Bloomberg to fire the transit workers.

http://www.halfsigma.com

Posted by: Half Sigma at December 20, 2005 05:17 PM

You're lucky to be able to work from home...but I think that that puts you at a MAJOR disadvantage when debating this topic.

Eh, how? I'm completely unemotional about the topic because it didn't ruin my day.

My 'strongest debate point' is that unions are by their nature corrupt and that they are run similarly to the mob.

So, how are you planning to get into SAG seeing as you need experience to get in but it's nearly impossible to get experience without first being in SAG?

Posted by: Karol at December 20, 2005 05:17 PM

Karol...

I'm going to forget you turning this into a debate about my acting career...

It's cool that you're not emotionally invested in this issue...my only point was that I stand by the "lower rung"...the people who actually run this city with their sweat and tears.


Also...to answer your question...it's very easy to get experience in theater without being in the union. SAG, EQUITY, AFTRA - I want in so that they can give me the benefits and safety that a union provides. But without them, I've co-owned my own non-profit theater company for three years, written and produced an original work, and improved upon my resume in ways that I never thought were possible.

But I digress...

It's just been a blast to actually debate with you on your popular site. Usually I'm not strong enough in my viewpoint. You've made me feel like I've actually done my homework and for that, you've made me proud.

Hugs!

Posted by: Joe CuttheShit at December 20, 2005 06:17 PM

Actors and TWU members are hardly the lower rung in this city. You stand by the people that are causing terrible harm to the lower rung. It's a bad joke when people who are relatively well off repeat endlessly how much they are for the little guy, when they are really stepping on the little guy's neck.

Posted by: J.Kende at December 20, 2005 06:49 PM

The idea that New Yorkers actually owe rude, unhelpful people wo sit in the station booths an 8 percent raise is completely absurd and, were I negotiating with the Union, I would simply fire its employees entirely and hire people who are grateful for honest work and honest pay.

Posted by: Dorian at December 20, 2005 07:13 PM

Everyone is hyper-focusing on the MTA yet no one is scrutinizing the entity the MTA relies on for dollars...

The State of New York... the taxpayers... the commuters... the elected officials in the Assembly and State Senate...

How about the Governor of New York State?

As for the Transport Workers Union Local 100, even their own international union is about to go after them.

This was an illegal strike -- but the MTA behaves as if it is unaccountable.

Posted by: Bob Fois at December 20, 2005 07:14 PM

f we're going to look for a bright side to this debacle, which will cost the city millions, it's that I've heard so many of my liberal friends slam the Transport Workers Union.

Karol,

You made a great point. One of my best friends is a staunch unionist. Even he thinks they are crybabies. To hear him badmouth a union, especially one in NYC, is nothing short of a miracle. Hell, even their parent union is disavowing their actions. Screw'em.

Posted by: ccs178 (Chris) at December 20, 2005 07:21 PM

The MTA is a total screwup. We all know that. Many of us work to change it in our own small ways whenever we can. Albany is an even bigger screwup. We all know that. Many of us work to change that to in our own ways whenever we can. But the TWU is the biggest screwup of all of them. Fire them. Put them in massive debt. Jail the union heads. Bankrupt the union. And then automate as much of the system as possible, subcontract whatever shouldn't be automated, and use the savings to hire 2 thousand new police officers to make the system safer... oh, and I don't know, maybe even improve service without raising the fare yet again. Private sector workers will be happy with 60 thousand bucks a year and a 401k. The guys in the blue uniforms from Ready, Willing, and Able (aka. The Doe Fund) will do a much better job at cleaning the stations.

Karol, you are connected well enough to the tiny Republican minority in this city... feed them some ideas. There are millions of pissed off voters out there, and their numbers will increase every day this strike goes on.

Posted by: J.Kende at December 20, 2005 09:55 PM

Recall what happened when MLB fired their umpires when they struck. They all came crawling back.

That's not exactly what happened- the umpires' union came up with the exceptionally stupid strategy of, rather than striking, submitting mass resignations, in order to start a separate company and sell themselves to baseball as independent contractors. Instead, baseball merely accepted the resignations of the 22 umpires they really wanted to fire, and refused to accept the rest. The union crumbled then and there.

I got a front-row seat for this at the time, because my roommate was Donald Fehr's son.

Posted by: Stephen Silver at December 21, 2005 10:25 AM

First off, I don't think the Union should have gone on strike. I think the last minute offer the MTA gave was reasonable enough to avert a strike and continue negotiotions. If the MTA offer was a slap in the face then I would probably be supportive of the strike. This strike however is stupid and is only hurting everyone.

Contracts set trends for all other Unions. If the city is able to raise retirement age and years of service to retire they will try and do it to every one else. If the gov't gets increased pension and health contributions worked into this contract they will use it as a model for all other contracts.
I like the fact that the TWU is taking a stand against this. I also respect that the TWU is not selling out their unborn. I can't say the same thing about my union, the NYPD PBA.

These kind of civil servant jobs in NYC do not pay that well considering the cost of living here. The Benefits are what make up for the lack of pay.
If these jobs were as great and fantastic as people here bitching about how greedy and unappreciative the TWU is being, then why do they have so much trouble recruiting employees?

Here is something that the media has ignored. The Union wants the MTA to change harsh disciplinary policys and to improve safety. This is also a reason they went on Strike.
The strike is less about amount of a raise and more about benefits, retirement, respect and safety.

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