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January 24, 2006

It's not about Bush.

I knew European anti-Americanism didn't begin with Bush's presidency. Cathy Young has the proof.

Posted by Karol at January 24, 2006 07:10 AM | TrackBack
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Damn those French wimps, how dare they stereotype us!?

Posted by: Sam L. at January 24, 2006 08:16 AM

Since WWII the foundation of all left-wing parties in Europe and Britain is Anti-Americanism. Take away Anti-Americanism from the left and their belief system would collapse.

The media is left-wing over there just as it is here and the people get a steady diet of Anti-Americanism. So much of Anti-Americanism is due to ignorance.

Posted by: Jake at January 24, 2006 09:24 AM

Europeans laugh at how seriously the USA takes itself. In Europe, it is still possible to be taken down a peg or two by the public, if you are a politician or public figure. The nearest I've seem a US notable come to this is either when Bill Gates was custard pied (in Brussels), or when Cheney or Rumsfeld (I forget which) was asked by a US serviceman why they didn't have the right body armour.
Recently Mary and I debated UK v US libel laws. It seems to me that in the US you escape criticism with power or money (I'm thinking Michael Jackson).
The French thing probably comes from the export synonymous with the US, the burger. They feel the same way about British cuisine, and take the piss out of us too. It's not worth sweating over, or even 'proving'.

Posted by: bryan at January 24, 2006 10:42 AM

In the 90s, everybody I talked to in Europe thought that Clinton was a clown. Since I agreed with them, I took that as a sign that Europe was pro-American.

Posted by: Jake at January 24, 2006 12:14 PM

In the 90s, everybody I talked to in Europe thought that Clinton was a clown. Since I agreed with them, I took that as a sign that Europe was pro-American.

hahaahahhaahahahahahahahahah

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at January 24, 2006 12:53 PM

I've NEVER had a good burger in a French restaurant. But McDonalds has frites nailed down pretty well.

Posted by: Jay at January 24, 2006 12:55 PM

Jake--

That was comedy.

Dorian

Posted by: Dorian Davis at January 24, 2006 01:29 PM

I don't think this needed proving. America has been riduculed by Europe since we were a British Colony. It's only evolved from a true feeling of superiority to a fake feeling of superiority. Among the elite of Europe.

What has not been proved is that not only is Europe anti-american but it's now largely anti-Bush and a by product of being anti-Bush is even greater anti-americanism.

Posted by: PAUL at January 24, 2006 03:44 PM

Seriously Paul, they were all over Clinton, Bush Snr, Reagan and etc. as well.
I worry that people of all types in the US avoid criticism from others. I suspect this is why satire and 'American Idol' are so popular. Could you imagine what Simon Cowell would've said if he'd been on that show with the obviously strung-out Whitney Houston (and ?Barbera Walters?). Reagan used to face his critics, and that is one positive thing that even his critics can take away from him.

Posted by: bryan at January 25, 2006 03:24 AM

Are you kidding? Reagan was criticized for rarely holding press conferences, and for taking reporters' questions while about to board a helicopter, so he could pretend he couldn't hear the questions he didn't want to answer. It's the same complaints every time.

Posted by: Yaron at January 25, 2006 12:18 PM

Really, Yaron, I thought he was more into face-to-face than presidents have been since.

Posted by: bryan at January 25, 2006 03:54 PM

You seriously think the world and Europe in particular dislikes Bush the same amount as our past presidents. Dillusional!

Posted by: PAUL at January 25, 2006 09:29 PM

Or delusional even. I think you've changed the premise of the discussion. We started with anti-americanism since Bush came to power, but you seem to have moved on to specific anti-Bush sentiment. I'm willing to say, in this changed discussion, that Bush is probably less popular than some previous presidents, but maybe as much as Late Vietnam war LBJ and Nixon. This is just IMO, I'm sure there's someone with a way to measure this.
Jake: lol;)

Posted by: bryan at January 27, 2006 03:35 AM
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