March 08, 2006
Terry Jones (yes, that Terry Jones): God wants Saddam in power [posted by Allah]
He's writing in the voice of the Almighty -- admittedly, an attractive vehicle for satire:
According to Gabriel, God spake these words: "That George W Bush once had the nerve to say: 'God told me to go end the tyranny in Iraq, and I did.' Well, let me tell you I did no such thing! If I'd wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein, I could have given him pneumonia. I didn't need the president of the United States to send in hundreds of heavy bombers and thousands of missiles to destroy Iraq - even though I appreciate that Halliburton needed to fill its order books."
He's not saying that God condones Saddam's behavior, of course. He's merely suggesting that, in a just world, Saddam would still be in power. Which makes the irony of this earlier passage all the more shocking:
"If Tony Blair thinks his friendship with George W Bush is worth rubbing out a couple of hundred thousand Iraqi men, women and children, then that's something he can talk over with me later," said God.
Is he kidding? Or am I so out of practice with satire that I'm missing the joke?
Posted by Allahpundit at March 8, 2006 04:09 AM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags:
God and Allah are certainly on Bush's side and not on Saddam's side.
As Commander-in-Chief, Bush lead our military in a defeat of the Iraqi armies in three weeks. Iran, with armies 12 times larger than ours, could not defeat Iraq in 10 years of war.
As Commander-in-Chief, Bush lead our military in a defeat of the Taliban in 6 weeks. The Soviet Union in 10 years of war could not defeat the Taliban.
These miracles could not have happened with out the blessing of Allah and God.
Posted by: Jake at March 8, 2006 10:06 AMTerry Jones has not done a funny thing in his entire life. He has been silly but never funny.
Posted by: Jake at March 8, 2006 10:09 AMThis is just Terry Jones being silly. Don't read it as any kind of political statement, except maybe that religion and politics don't mix.
Posted by: EdMcGon at March 8, 2006 02:06 PMTerry Jones is a full throated howling moonbat of the first order. He hates America with a ferocity that even John Pilger might find off-putting.
A short time after 9/11, enraged by our mistreatment of the Taliban and plans to confront Saddam, Terry Jones wrote this in the Guardian:
The moment the IRA blew up the Horseguards' bandstand, the Government should have declared its own War on Terrorism. It should have immediately demanded that the Irish government hand over Gerry Adams. If they refused to do so - or quibbled about needing proof of his guilt - we could have told them that this was no time for prevarication and that they must hand over not only Adams but all IRA terrorists in the Republic. If they tried to stall by claiming that it was hard to tell who were IRA terrorists and who weren't, because they don't go around wearing identity badges, we would have been free to send in the bombers...
..Should we have bombed Washington, where the policies were formed? Or should we have concentrated on places where Irishmen are known to lurk, like New York, Boston and Philadelphia? We could have bombed any police station and fire station in most major urban centres, secure in the knowledge that we would be taking out significant numbers of IRA sympathisers. On St Patrick's Day, we could have bombed Fifth Avenue and scored a bull's-eye.
In those American cities we couldn't afford to bomb, we could have rounded up American citizens with Irish names, put bags over their heads and flown them in chains to Guernsey or Rockall, where we could have given them food packets marked 'My Kind of Meal' and exposed them to the elements with a clear conscience.
Yes, this 'comedian' was talking about bombing New York a few months after 9/11. My daughter was marching in the St. Patrick's day parade. I wrote him an intersting letter, full of fun facts about the British/Irish history, the 1 million dead in the potato famine and 9/11. I didn't get a response, but I'd guess he got other, similar letters, because his output slowed for a while.
When Jones talks about hating America, he's definitely not joking.
Fuck me !!! So may times I defend Amercians against that tired and hackneyed old jibe "yuh, Americans don't have a sense of irony" or "Americans just don't get sarcasm". As if to prove their point along comes Mary. No offence luv, but you're the ranting moonbat here. Not a particularly consistent one at that. What the fuck has your has your daughter marching in a parade got to do with anything ? I'll tell you what, I am sure a personal letter from yourself didn't raise Jone's opinion of Americans. Any chance of reproducing it here ? I could do with another laugh.
BTW Jone's first paragraph isn't a million miles away from Karol's advice on how to deal with the IRA
Posted by: Urbane McMeercat at March 9, 2006 12:08 PMI'll tell you what, I am sure a personal letter from yourself didn't raise Jone's opinion of Americans.
Why on earth should I give one, small, solitary crap about making a dolt like Terry Jones like us?
Jones uses sarcasm to express his hatred of America. The concept is not hard to understand.
But, just in case you don't get it, here are a few links
Terry Jones on Afghanistan
Well, many months later, who has paid for it? US taxpayers have stumped up billions of dollars. They've paid for it. So have the British taxpayers, for some reason which hasn't yet been explained to us. Uncounted thousands of innocent Afghan citizens have paid for it too - with their lives. I say 'uncounted' because nobody in the West seems to have been particularly interested in counting them. It's pretty certain more innocent people have died and are still dying in the bombing of Afghanistan than on 11 September, but the New York Times doesn't run daily biographies of them so they don't count.
Oh, I nearly forgot - we've all paid a considerable amount in terms of those precious civil liberties and freedoms that make our way of life in the Free World so much better than everyone else's. Bit of a conundrum that.
We are all also paying a huge price, all the time, every day, in terms of our daily anxiety quota. We daren't fly in planes or, if we do, we do so in fear and dread. We are constantly fearful of some nameless retribution being visited on us. And it's no good Mr Blair saying this is the terrorists' fault. Of course it is, but then if we hadn't joined the Americans in bombing Afghanistan we wouldn't all be so scared.
Terry Jones on the 'torture' of suspects in Guantanamo- (the horror of putting bags on terrorists heads)
Luckily the US is not bound by any soft-centred decisions of the European Court of Human Rights. In fact the US also needn't take any notice of the United Nations Convention against Torture either, because it was one of the few countries that had the sense not to sign the agreement in 1985. Argentina, Belgium, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Senegal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Uruguay made the mistake of signing it, and subsequently Venezuela, Luxembourg, Panama, Austria and even the UK and Afghanistan joined in, but America didn't.
Lucky for them. Now we can see how it's paying off. The US Army can put bags over the heads of whoever they like. But what really excited us at HSPBOSH was the fact that the editors of the New York Times and the London Times could publish the photograph of Afghanistani suspects with bags over their heads without making any comment at all.
Let's hope this means that the British and American public is finally ready to accept the fact that the only faces that matter are British and American faces. These are the only 'people' who count now, and - to be quite honest - the rest of the world might has well go around with bags over their heads. Which is great news for all of us here at HSPBOSH.
I'm describing the easily verifiable fact that Jones hates us and I disagree with him. Why do you have a problem with that?
He expresses his moonbatty opinions with the wit and wisdom of Prince Herbert and the insight of this character here.
I still enjoy watching the Holy Grail. If I boycotted all moonbatty actors, there'd be nothing to watch.
Posted by: mary at March 9, 2006 01:51 PMIt is irony.
And the reason that is ironic is because some people (see Jake above) actually think that God personally willed the Iraq war into being. Which just begs to be mocked.
"I'm describing the easily verifiable fact that Jones hates us and I disagree with him. Why do you have a problem with that?"
No, not at all. Not sure how someone voicing opposition to certain policies makes him a verifiable spite filled Yank hater, but never mind. Whatever gets you by.
Are you going to share the letter with us then ?
" I didn't get a response, but I'd guess he got other, similar letters, because his output slowed for a while"
I wouldn't bank on it. You are truly a one off.
Have a good weekend.
Mary,
Why are you so bothered about peole hating America. England, France and Germany have been globally despised for decades and it doesn't seem to bother them.
Why are you so bothered about peole hating America. England, France and Germany have been globally despised for decades and it doesn't seem to bother them.
I spent a lot of time in Europe and Britain during the late '80's, and I got used to the fact that they hate America (and Americans). Everyone hates the guy in charge. If you can't complain about the boss, who can you complain about?
It was harder to get used to the Euro and British tendency to hate everyone, including themselves. That made me queasy after a while.
But after 9/11 the reaction of a the Euro and British elites, especially some writers at the Guardian, like Charlotte Raven, stalinist Seumas Milne and Terry Jones, was different. It wasn't ordinary hatred, they were verbally dancing with glee over the bodies of three thousand recently murdered people. It wasn't just hatred, they loathed us with a kind of primitive spite that crossed the line into a social abhorrence.
I just criticize that kind of abhorrent behavior.
I can't respect Terry Jones as a person, but I can admire his work as an actor. I can't respect David Duke either, but I can admire his public relations skills.
Posted by: mary at March 10, 2006 09:43 AMI wouldn't bank on it
The Guardian and similar publications, like Arab News, often complained after 9/11 about the volume of angry letters they got from Americans. They believed that their work was for local consumption only. Apparently these primitive beasts forgot that the internet is world-wide.
Posted by: mary at March 10, 2006 09:48 AMMmm. God appears to have forsaken this blogspot. At least Allah is around.
Posted by: Urbane McMeercat at March 10, 2006 01:21 PM


