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May 01, 2006

Applying the Moby rule to the blogosphere

Back during the election of 2004, Moby came up with a genius idea: pretend to be Republicans when speaking to Republicans about Bush. Attack him for not being conservative enough, plant rumors about him being pro-choice and generally just gum up the works on Republican chat sites and bulletin boards.

"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Moby's tireless effort helped elected President Kerry, hahahaha, sorry, I couldn't even continue with that joke.

Anyhoo, I have reason to suspect that some people are applying this method today, on the issue of immigration. I have received three very similar emails on a "Bush betrayed America"/"Don't vote Republican ever again" theme:

* "Bush and crew have basically betrayed America"

* "Current Republican leaders (probably taking bribes from Vicente Fox) are selling America out. They are more interested in helping illegal Mexicans than long standing Americans. They have betrayed working America. I've been a Republican for 17 years, have worked on campaigns, but if they pass any bill, I will not vote for Republicans this fall. Please, promise me. Do NOT vote Republican."

* "Traitors to America: G.W. Bush, John McCain, Mike DeWine, Arlen Specter, Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback. Please, do NOT vote Republican and convince everyone you know not to vote Republican."

It's possible, of course, that it's a coincidence that all three emails use very similar language and urge people not to vote Republican. However, I present as further proof that it's no coincidence:

*Two of the email addresses are things like "republicanguy1996" and "rightwingguy1997". The third email address is a woman's name followed by a 1997.

*Two of the emails implore me to "forward this to all the Republicans you know".

*The subject line of all three emails begins with a "Re:" (one is "Re:Republicans" and two of them are "Re:Immigration").

Be vigilant, bloggers, that your anger at Bush isn't being provoked by those who would outliberal him any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Posted by Karol at May 1, 2006 05:37 PM | TrackBack
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On the other hand, I saw a woman on the train ride home this evening holding a flyer titled "Wanted for crossing borders illegally: The Bush Regime". She held what I think was a Guatemalan flag in the other hand, so you can guess from which event she came.

But yes, her flyer accused Bush, et al., of hypocrisy. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, I guess.

Posted by: Nikhil Bhat at May 1, 2006 07:20 PM

He has been a fairly poor president, but hey, you can't vote for him any more!

Posted by: bryan at May 1, 2006 08:29 PM

but hey, you can't vote for him any more!
nooooooooooooooooooo, i missed my chance. dammit.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at May 1, 2006 09:27 PM

But aren't there Republicans, in real life, who are saying those exact things about Bush?

Posted by: Stephen Silver at May 1, 2006 10:06 PM

These people think they're brilliant, outwitting us by simply pretending to be Republican and making the same irresponsible statements they make as Democrats. Nobody is stupid enough to fall for this routine though, so it makes Democrats seem rather bungling and silly.

Posted by: Dorian Davis at May 2, 2006 12:17 AM

But Bush *is* a betrayer of conservative principles; he's entirely abandoned the principles of limited government and giving powers to the states.

It shocks me that anyone doesn't have Stephen Silver's (above) reaction on the subject.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg at May 2, 2006 10:31 AM

I question your patriotism, Joe.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at May 2, 2006 11:13 AM

Joe, I agree that Bush is not conservative enough. But leftists who want us to stay home on election day aren't looking to elect a federalist, know what I'm saying? I would still vote Bush over Kerry today, I imagine other Republicans would too. And there is no Republican who would 'never vote Republican again' because of Bush unless they're dumb as rocks and don't know that he is just one man and not the party.

Posted by: Karol at May 2, 2006 11:51 AM

My reaction, if and when I am unhappy with those Republicans in power, is to vote in DIFFERENT Republicans. Duh. Why would I vote for a Democrat because the Republican in office has been acting like a Dem (which is why I'm supposedly unhappy with them?) That is why these emails and arguments are bogus.

Posted by: carin at May 2, 2006 11:54 AM

If the emails were real, they would say something to the effect of

"Vote in the Republican primaries so we can get better candidates on this issue"

not

"Do NOT vote Republican" so a lefty can get elected and make the problem ten times worse

Posted by: TallDave at May 2, 2006 11:59 AM

TallDave:

Exactly. "Republican" and "Democrat" aren't the only options. There are also "Third Party" and, especially, "stay at home, because you're sick of politics."

Posted by: Joe Grossberg at May 2, 2006 01:45 PM

Another option is to hold your nose and vote for Republican candidates while telling their fundraising telemarketer drones that they won't get a single thin dime until things start to change.

Posted by: Sean M. at May 2, 2006 02:13 PM


But Bush *is* a betrayer of conservative principles; he's entirely abandoned the principles of limited government and giving powers to the states.


If you mean Bush is not a single-minded ideologue, then you are right. He did not take an oath to preserve, protect and defend conservative principles, to the exclusion of all else.

But calling him "a betrayer of conservative principles" is a bit over the top.

He fought for pro-growth tax cuts, and is now fighting to make them permanent.

He instituted badly needed, accountability-based education reform (NCLB), while affirming the principle of local control of schools, rather than simply writing checks to the teachers' unions, as a Democrat would have done.

He proposed an innovative, market-based solution to the Social Security crisis. That it has not passed is thanks to the lack of vision and leadership in Congress (and the demagogery of the Democrats).

He passed market-based energy and environmental reforms.

His commitment to a strong national defense needs no further elaboration.

The conservative knocks against Bush, as far as I can tell are three:

1) Medicare prescription drug benefit
2) Harriet Miers
3) Guest worker program for immigration reform

Concerning #1, the President campaigned on the Medicare prescription drug benefit in 2000, so it should be no surprise that he did not renege on his campaign promise. The reform is a big entitlement program, certainly, but it is stupid to have Medicare without it, and there are market-based elements to it, although not to ideal extent one might have hoped. Passing legislation is about compromise, and the President got the best prescription benefit he could. A Democrat plan would not have been smaller or better.

Regarding #2, while the Miers nomination was a bad political misjudgment, the President believed he was nominating a conservative, and for all we know she was. I don't think he was trying to sneak a liberal judge onto the court. In any case, having made a mistake, the President corrected it nicely with Alito, who I don't think any conservative has a legitimate beef about. You can accuse him of bad judgment here, but not, I think, "betraying conservative principles".

Finally, there is immigration reform. While there are many conservatives opposed to a guest worker program, I do not see this as a benchmark conservative issue. Some reform is needed, and there is no point in proposing something which has no chance of passing. Again, when it gets down to brass tacks, you have to pass the best reform you can. The simple fact is that there is no way we can round up and deport 11 million people, even if we wanted to. Given that the illegal immigrants aren't going away, it makes sense to get as many of them as possible into some sort of legal status, so they pay taxes and are no longer totally outside the law. I respect those who disagree with the President's policy on immigration, but again I think it is better to support reforms that have a chance of passing, rather than to commit political suicide by holding out for something theoretically better but practically impossible.

Disagreeing with the president is one thing (and a necessary part of a democracy), but there is no reason (IMHO) to question his motives or to toss around inflammatory language like "betrayal", just because you disagree with certain policies.

On a conservative scale of 0-10, where 0 is Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer, and a 10 is Ronald Reagan, I would rate Bush a 9. Not perfect, but if you think staying home on election day in November is going to result in more conservative policies coming out of Washington, or more conservative judges confirmed, or a stronger immigration policy, you will be in for an unpleasant surprise.

Posted by: LagunaDave at May 2, 2006 02:40 PM

I would rank him more as a 6 or 7, but I would still vote for him over Kerry or Gore. Compared to them, he is a 15 or 20.

Posted by: buzz at May 2, 2006 06:23 PM

In Maryland, it happens at the voting polls. They are supposed to have one Republican and one Democrat voting judge (a civilian paid a stipend by the county, not a law judge) to oversee poll workers. The poll workers are supposed to be evenly divided among Republicans and Democrats. Interestingly, Republican volunteers can't find any polls to volunteer at, because they are all full of "republican"s. If you complain about voting irregularities (such as people helping non-English reading people vote, or voting for them while they stand outside), you get hasseled and eventually the cops show up.

Posted by: AJ at May 12, 2006 10:49 PM
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