Gee, I wonder what they thought about the coverage of V-J Day.

Hoo-ah!
Hooray! Great work! USA! USA! USA!

Was that inappropriate?

Yes! Totally! You should be ashamed. :-)

Weird complaint. Though I guess sometimes it is a little off putting when a major newspaper adopts a tabloid-style editorial/article mix.

There is nothing "off putting" or wrong with celebrating the violent death of a butcher like Zarqawi in whatever fashion you desire. What is off putting is the Baltimore Sun's journalist who is more concerned that Bush and Rumsfeld will get some credit for this (which is the true reason for the article) than that a murderer of innocent Americans and Iraqis is dead.

Congratulations to the US Air Force and those on the ground that helped them. It was a outstanding achievement.

As happened with the capture of Adolph Hitler and the "Fat Man and Little Boy" bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, some American news organizations yesterday covered the surrender of Japan with marked enthusiasm, verging on inappropriate glee.

Perhaps the tone was set by the cheering and sustained applause by Chinese reporters at the Nanking news conference announcing the surrender. But American television didn't have to follow that gung-ho lead to the extent that some channels did throughout the day.

The TV news channels and their radio channels were the worst offenders, though other news organizations shared that lack of proportion and restraint.

Well, I don't intend to give the Sun my email adress, so I can't read the article, so I don't know exactly what they are refering to.
I do understand being concerned about the blending of editorialism and news reporting, though this issue is so unambiguous that it is an odd one to complain about the coverage of.

To use Nelson Muntz' immortal phrase: "HAW, HAW!"

It's hard to believe this was once the paper of H.L. Mencken.

How times have changed.

For the worse, in this case.

I agree with the paper. The celebration was completely inappropriate. It was far too little celebrating. There should have been more dancing in the streets, fireworks, popping of champagne bottles and a US military man or two giving a big fat wet one to a beautiful lady...and to be fair a military woman planting one on some lucky guy...

We should be ashamed....there should be a lot more celebrating than we are doing.

Ok, Gerard, I'll call you out on that one. Mencken was not, by any stretch of the immagination, an interventionist. He would not have supported a crusade abroad for democracy, as good Trotskyites like I. Kristol and Hitch would. Sorry but playing the Mencken card just won't work on this one. There's no way that an America Firster like the Sage of Baltimore would have gone along with the war in Iraq.

And how precisely are the cretins that work for the Baltimore Sun America Firsters?

When have the anti-American hacks who churn out drivel on a daily basis for these disgusting media organs ever put America first, rather than last?

There's a distinction between being a principled isolationist and taking a sadistic pleasure in anything that undermines the United States, which is the last beacon of Western civilization.

And I'm not implying that Mencken would have supported the war in Iraq-although how you can be so smug in the knowledge that he would have opposed it is beyond me-but the idea that he would align himself with pre-medieval, Islamo-fascist savages who are the Arab Middle East's version of the second, more brutal incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan is patently absurd.

The article would been better if it focused on the tablodization of the media, instead it editorialized about the over celebration of a victory for the good guys. Stupid!

I am not saying the staff of the Baltimore Sun are America Firsters or any type of American conservative. They simply do not put America first (but then neither do a number of self-described American conservatives).

"And I'm not implying that Mencken would have supported the war in Iraq-although how you can be so smug in the knowledge that he would have opposed it is beyond me-but the idea that he would align himself with pre-medieval, Islamo-fascist savages who are the Arab Middle East's version of the second, more brutal incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan is patently absurd."

I can be certain on this due to simple reason that I have read a great deal of American history, works on Mencken and works by Mencken (am I correct in my presumtion that you are new here? If so check out my often obscure references to the Harding administration, W.C Rives and the Madisonian tradition and pro wrestling). Mencken opposed strong chief executives and American intervention abroad. Simply put, he was a member of the Old Right. Now granted there were disciples of Mencken who sharply disagreed with him on foreign affairs (W.J. Cash of the Charlotte News comes to mind off the top of the head) but the Old Sage was essentially an isolationist. If he did not consider Hitler a large enough threat to America, I do not think he would have considered Saddam one.

Mencken was a vocal opponent of American involvement in European affairs throughout the 30s and well into the start of the 40s. Using your definition, I suppose you would say that Mencken aligned himself with pre-medieval, Germanic fascist savages who were Central Europe's version of the second, more brutal incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan.

For those reasons, I do not think he would have supported the was in Iraq.

As long as I'm ranting on HLM, let me just say the most recent book on the guy that I read, Teachout's "The Skeptic" really overplayed the anti-Semitism charge against the Sage of Baltimore. You'd think that Teachout was of the Norman Podheretz school....oh wait....

I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not "new" here, yet I'm completely unfamiliar with your work, sans the last few days.

I did pick up on a comment you made on another thread suggesting that we should set a timetable for the GWOT, which is a very interesting concept, especially since we've been at war with Islam-on and off-for the better part of thirteen centuries.

I hate to break this to you, but I sincerely doubt that this newest iteration of an age-old conflict is going to be resolved within the time frame of a popular telenovela.

In any case, I was not implying that Mencken would have supported OIF, or even OEF-much less that his foreign policy views would resemble those of Christopher Hitchens, were he alive today-only that you should perhaps reconsider the idea that he would be inalterably opposed to a conflict that serves as the demarcation point between civilization and barbarism.

It's easy to affix someone's views-five decades ago, within a different context-onto the events of today. It's an entirely different matter pondering what someone who considered himself a cosmopolitan and an intellectual would have done if he had been witness to an unspeakable atrocity perpetrated by an illiterate, barbaric, anti-intellectual, retrograde culture-such as it is-a few miles from where he lived and worked.

In any case, it is not my desire to recast H.L. Mencken in some neoconservative mold, or to tarnish the memory isolationists at anti-war.com have of his legacy. I merely used him as an illustration of the depths to which the contemporary news media has sunk, morally and intellectually.

Fact is, if we killed Bin Laden tomorrow some people would say it was inappropriate to celebrate.

Yet they cheered and celebrated when the terrorist Mossaoui didn't get the death penalty.

Why I am getting the odd feeling that some people really don't want America to win?

Because they don't.

There has always been a persistent, intractable element within our society that makes it their purpose in life to undermine the infrastructure of this country.

Just replace the names "Aptheker" and "Schrecker" with "Cole" and "Khalidi" and you'll see where I'm going with this.

There were always Joe Kennedys, and to think that will ever change is mistaken. The only difference being that today they are bolstered by a media matrix, and a large portion of elected officals, who seem to regard the idea of preserving Western values with a feeling verging on contempt.

I am celebrating by eating a bacon sandwich. Tell me where they bury him so I can send him a country ham or some Bob Evans sausage.

I don't know, Joe Kennedy was not quite the isolationist people have made him out to be (I would say his support of Lend Lease for example in Jan, 1941 when he testified before Congress in support of it).

Gerard and I seem to be more in agreement than I would have thought. I agree with him that we are at war with Islam and have been at war for centuries. It's one of the chief reasons that I want to close the borders and preserve Western culture as well as aiming to ensure that God and His church remains active in the public square.

I don't remember ever supporting a time table though I am very disheartened by our progress in Iraq and would rather see the troops on the Rio Grande and in the airports and ports as opposed to abroad. One of the chief reasons that I oppose the effort to force democracy to Iraq is that I think Islam and democracy simply can not work together. I simply do not buy the politically correct notion that all cultures and religions are equal. I am a man of the West and proud of our culture and traditions and frankly a lot of our core is under assult.

Does the Baltimore Sun print letters to the editor online? I would love to read the responses they got.

Heh...I sure as hell celebrated. Got a bottle of Jim Beam and some birthday cake, and did my happy dance. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong whatsoever about celebrating the death of this monster. I've had friends die in Iraq. My own father was injured several times "across the pond," in the "sandbox." My friends and family, as well as my "brothers" in the military were hurt or killed by men like Zarqawi. To see him dead was the best feeling I can imagine. Hell I didn't even need to drink coffee to wake up that morning. If anyone disagrees, feel free to send me hatemail. All day long, if you wish. I'll even read it and respond, but only on every 3rd day. Don't ask.

Squid, OUT!

I wrote the Sun and informed them that I was experiencing "inppropriate glee" and asked them if they could do anything for it. I hope they don't evfer figure out how to stop me.

I think we should put away the pom poms until the war is actually won. I remember when saddam was captured ... that was to break the back of the dead-ender's insurgency. That never happened.

Has the death of al-Zarqawi actually hurt the insurgency or inspired them? Dont you see ... the leaders of Al-Qaida are just as much a part of the fight as the suicide bombers. The Al-Qaida leaders dont sit in Ivory Towers like George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. They will be seen as true warriors by their followers and it will simply inspire more action.

So go on and cheer and celebrate with your jim beam ... all you are celebrating is the perpetuation of useless conflict and the deaths of american soldiers.

Iraq is the new Israel. The insurgency in Iraq will see the same funding that palestinians have been receiving for decades in thier conflict with Israel. And will we ever stop those that are truly funding the conflict? ... No, not so long as they are sitting on the oil that our Hummers so desperately need.

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