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August 01, 2006

No.

Gibson Asks Jews’ Forgiveness for Remarks

Mostly because he has made Abe Foxman right.

UPDATE: Allah writes:

As if Jews don’t have enough to do between worrying about Israel and dodging bullets outside the local JCC, now they have to help this moron understand that they’re not out sowing the seeds of world discord. Were I a cynic, I’d call this a calculated ploy to put the ball back in their court morally, a way to preempt grudge-holding by framing it in terms of denying assistance to a man in distress.

Exactly.

Posted by Karol at August 1, 2006 05:43 PM | TrackBack
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Well, he still has a ways to go before he tops that condemned Pak. prisoner in Oklahoma who, prior to execution, unleashed a venemous screed against world Jewry.

Even if I was the most anti-Semitic, virulently hateful Muslim on the planet I don't think my last words would focus on a worldwide Zionist plot, if for no other reason than not to look cliched.

:/

Posted by: Gerard at August 1, 2006 11:36 PM

Good point Gerard! Lest we forget that there are racists who aren't Republicans.

Posted by: Sam L. at August 1, 2006 11:50 PM

Mel Gibson is NOT a Republican! Just because he's religious doesn't make him a political conservative.

Posted by: Karol at August 2, 2006 12:33 AM

I'd remind Allah and Karol that asking for forgiveness is a major part of the Catholic tradition which Gibson adheres to. It may well be a ploy but it also may be part of his faith.

Is Gibson a political conservative? No idea though certainly Braveheart and the Patriot have a number of conservative themes in them. I do think Gibson is a religious conservative and there are few conservative Christians in today's left. He's probably on the far right, even further than me I'd wager.

Posted by: Von Bek at August 2, 2006 09:39 AM

Actually, I thought "granting" forgiveness is part of the Catholic faith. Is "asking" forgiveness a big part as well?

I don't forgive him. I feel foolish for ever defending him. Admit it, Von Bek, Abe Foxman was right and we were wrong. And Mel Gibson made that happen!

Like Allah noted, people don't change that much when they're drunk:

All I’d say to that is, however unpredictable its effects, booze doesn’t change political opinions. I’ve never gotten wasted and started arguing that we should raise the minimum wage, say, or close off ANWR to drilling. Inhibitions suppress thoughts that are already there, as anyone who’s ever been around a “one-drink drunk” can tell you. Replace them with a buzz and blurry vision and you’ve got beer goggles. Or, in the case of an anti-semite, a diatribe about how “Jews cause all the wars in the world.”

He's taking his PR people's advice: apologize, atone, meet with Jewish leaders, take some pictures etc.

Posted by: Karol at August 2, 2006 10:19 AM

Like Allah noted, people don't change that much when they're drunk:

I strongly disagree. As I have previously noted, I have come in contact with a number of alcoholics being booked and severely acting out. Their behavior at the time did not reflect the person they were when sober.

Posted by: sam at August 2, 2006 11:13 AM

But likely not their political opinions....

Posted by: Karol at August 2, 2006 11:28 AM

"Is "asking" forgiveness a big part as well?"

Yeah, it's actually the core of one of the sacraments.

Was Foxman right about Gibson as an anti-Semite? Sure. Was he right about the film leading to increased anti-Semitism in America? I don't think so. Despite what was predicted by the likes of Foxman and The New Republic, Jewish blood did not flow in the street as all the gentiles watched the movie. That type of thought really held the vast majority of Americans in contempt.

I made a comment yesterday how Gibson is nuts and my brother said anyone who made "Bird on a Wire" had to be.

Posted by: Von Bek at August 2, 2006 11:34 AM

I don't consider his remarks a polictical opinion.

Posted by: sam at August 2, 2006 11:41 AM

I've seen people do a complete 180 degree Jekyll & Hyde when drunk. Many, many times. It is the reason why I'm very careful (picky) of who I drink with.
Of course, I'm not speaking for Mel Gibson, having never drank with him, but to totally discount it as a possibility because Allah said so is well...the word obtuse comes to mind.

Posted by: ccs178 (Chris) at August 2, 2006 11:47 AM

True people act different when they are drunk but their opinions don't change. Possibley your feelings and opinions become more extreme when you are drunk. So in Gibsons case...
I hate jews when I am sober.
I really really hate jews when I am drunk.

Posted by: PAUL at August 2, 2006 05:08 PM

There is a big difference between people who are merely drunk and people who are alcholics, drunk, and enraged because they have been arrested.

Posted by: sam at August 2, 2006 05:47 PM
Lest we forget that there are racists who aren't Republicans.

Sam Loser, your birthing bitch didn't have any offspring that lived - right?

Posted by: Radical Redneck at August 3, 2006 04:21 AM
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