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August 10, 2006

Things I'm thinking about today

1. The news from Britain is just crazy, a timely reminder that terrorism isn't a figment of President Bush's imagination.

2. I don't think Lieberman should run as an Independent. A few years back, I really wanted Pat Toomey to defeat Arlen Specter in the Republican primary in Pennsylvania. It wasn't just that Specter was to my left on so many issues, and that Toomey was such a real fiscal conservative (Toomey now heads my favorite group--Club for Growth), it was that Specter seemed to enjoy sticking his thumb in the eye of Republicans to enhance his 'moderate', 'bi-partisan' image. I imagine that this is what Democrats felt about Lieberman. I think back to that time, when Toomey lost by the tiniest sliver of a margin, and try to imagine him winning and then Specter running as an Independent. I would've lost the plot. I don't hate Specter, he's one of ours, even when it doesn't seem that way, but I would've despised him had he done something like that. Lieberman lost, fair and square, he should step aside and let democracy take its course. (Not to mention, from a political perspective, what a complete embarrassment it will be if he runs as an Independent and loses anyway).

3. Last night, I attended the most interesting debate of all time. To quote my not-very-political friend Lisa who attended as favor to me (I do work for one of the candidates) "wow, I thought that was going to be boring." It was definitely not boring.

4. Yesterday morning I was standing on the subway platform when a train pulled into the station. The conducter was completely asleep, head back, tongue out, Homer Simpson style. I still got on the train. I was late for work and I know there are two conducters and neither is even necessary. But still, I got on a train knowing that someone was literally asleep at the wheel. I need to examine that.

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Isn't running as an independent democracy taking its course? Someone elected lawmakers who enacted laws allowing canidates to run as independents, didn't they?

Posted by: sam at August 10, 2006 01:07 PM

Sure, I just think it's kind of beneath him. I would've wanted Specter's head on a stake if he had done that.

Posted by: Karol at August 10, 2006 01:09 PM

I went to the link to see the candidates. The times has it blocked if you're not registered. So at quick scan the only name was Hilary's. I was thinking, she's working for Hillary? "Woo hoo!!! Karol finally saw the light!"

Posted by: Joe at August 10, 2006 01:14 PM


2. If Lamont wins, it will make it much easier for bloggers. You can refer to the wacko Senator from Connecticut and you would always be right.

4. You can take comfort in knowing that a conductor who is asleep cannot commit an error that would endanger your life.

Posted by: Jake at August 10, 2006 01:16 PM

I don't see how letting roughly 4% of VOTING Democrats determine when an incumbant can or can't run for re-election. Every voter in Connecticut has a vested interest in Lieberman's candidacy regardless of affiliation. If I were one of his constituents, I'd be very angry if he let that 4% deny me my right to vote to retain 18+ years of experience and influence in the Senate. I've always hated Primaries. Let me vote for who I want to vote for, not who is leftover.

Posted by: ccs178 (Chris) at August 10, 2006 01:37 PM

"Lieberman lost, fair and square, he should step aside and let democracy take its course."

And by democracy taking its course, we mean that only those selected by a fraction of the people in one of the two major parties is allowed to run. Power to the party!

Posted by: Ken at August 10, 2006 01:42 PM

Karol:

Who said terrorism is a figment of Bush's imagination? Is this what critics of the Bush administration are supposed to believe? I know lots of people who think the Bush administration is a disaster but are very worried about terrorism. They just don't believe that the Bush administration is doing a very good job on that issue.

Jake:

Lamont is hardly wacko (and I doubt he will be as liberal as Senator Dodd). Personally, I think that Congress could use some more experienced businessmen like Lamont instead of yet another attorney.

Dan

Posted by: Dan at August 10, 2006 01:43 PM

I've changed the link, Joe.

Will respond to rest shortly.

Posted by: Karol at August 10, 2006 02:09 PM

Dan: The people who say that terrorism is a figment of the imagination are those that construe every mention of terrorism as pandering to "the politics of fear" and swatting at invisible "bogeyman." Take, for example, movies like V for Vendetta where the major commentary is how an evil leader uses fear of terrorism to amass power. BoingBoing just finished triumphantly mentioning some study proving what a remote threat terrorism is (I believe Cato Institute did the study, could be misremembering).

Maybe you personally don't believe terrorism is a nonissue, but there are plenty of people who do and vocalize it constantly.

Posted by: T. at August 10, 2006 02:15 PM

The terrorist threat by islamic fundamentalists is as real as it gets. The administration concept of how to create "National Security" is the twisted figment of warped and greedy imaginations.

Lieberman would do better for his self interest (as that is what Joe worries about) if he stopped now. He will not win and will look like an ass again staying in a race too long.

'Good for you' on the debate! I know you were looking forward to it.

Subway? Scary! I love the water taxi!

Posted by: toby at August 10, 2006 02:54 PM

"Lieberman lost, fair and square, he should step aside and let democracy take its course."

What did he lose? He lost the competition for party endorsement and national dollars. He still has not demonstrably lost the endorsement of the people of Connecticut.

Posted by: David at August 10, 2006 03:22 PM

As much as I'm glad Lamont won the ticket. it wasn't by a landslide. It was barely 52% (or 54). Would say it was evenly split.

Nader on the... er Lieberman on the ballot will help the republicans.

Posted by: Joe at August 10, 2006 06:04 PM

I doubt a Republican will win in any case. I really don't see how a Lieberman win will help Republicans UNLESS the Democrats go out of their way to alienate Lieberman and he wins.

If they strip him of his committee chair before the election and go out of their way to humiliate him the Republicans could trade him some semi-influential committee position (a la Jeffords) to get his vote on key issues.

That would be really stupid, but the Dems are showing a remarkable ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory lately. They should whomp the Republicans in the House this year, but I'm beginning to wonder if they'll pick up any seats at all.

Posted by: Eric at August 10, 2006 07:48 PM

Supporting Bush/getting on a train with someone asleep at the wheel. There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't think of it at the moment;)
Two of the 19 people arrested live less than a mile from me on Belcher's Lane, Birmingham. I hope this is a blow to those who blacken the name of Islam here. I also hope that airlines start having to give free water out on trips now that you can't bring youre own (I am such a tightwad).

Posted by: bryan at August 11, 2006 01:03 PM

I hope this is a blow to those who blacken the name of Islam here.


Uhhhhhhhhhhh?

Posted by: Karol at August 11, 2006 01:06 PM

I was talking to a guy last night who's always been a Democrat, but said he was frustrated that the party has gone too far in the Daily Kos direction, but he would never vote Republican. The angry senator from Georgia and his speech at the Republican convention in '04 also comes to mind. Finally, people like Glenn Reynolds have been entertaining the idea of a third party for a while.
"Republican" has been a curse word for many people, for a long time ("and he called her a bitch, a slut, and a Republican"), and with Dems being practically useless for the country, I think there's going to be more demand for a third party. After all, the two that we have are arguably the most corrupt institutions in America, so I think it would be good for the country if people like Lieberman, as pathetic as he may seem, put some heat under the big two's behinds. He's decided to run, and I'd rather see him win than this Ned guy.

Posted by: Ivan Lenin at August 11, 2006 01:11 PM

I might be naive but I think he meant a blow to those who blacken the name of Islam in the UK. (i.e. Islam is good, but made to look bad by bad people or as Jessica Rabbit once said, "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way.")

Posted by: ccs178 (Chris) at August 11, 2006 01:39 PM

Yes, that's what I meant. Most of the muslims I know are nice people, and get quite annoyed and not a little frustrated) at having their religion and lifestyle blackened by extremist tossers. Muslims have served and died in for us, and are proud to be British.
Karol, do you know any muslims?

Posted by: bryan at August 12, 2006 04:40 AM

I know Muslims, I'm friends with Muslims, even my freakin boss is a Muslim. If all those nice Muslims feel so bad about their religion being stollen, then why don't they go on tv and condemn the living shit out of those ruthless bastards that hihh jack their religion "of peace?" Instead of denouncing it, all I hear "Don't dicriminate against the Muslims." Guess what - maybe you should do some self policing in your own communities and denounce these actions then I will feel a bit better about cries of discrimination every time a homicidal maniac blows himself up in the name of Allah.

Posted by: Petitedov at August 12, 2006 10:32 AM

Lieberman lost, fair and square, he should step aside and let democracy take its course.

Not participating as an independent "enhances democracy" in precisely what way?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 12, 2006 01:12 PM

Petidov, relax man!
The UK has has muslims contributing to it for about a century. Unfortunately the way their committees work doesn't allow for many people to have their say. Things are changing however (a bit too slowly, but still), and I see and hear many muslims doing exactly what you think they should. Not the most sexy TV though, which is (I'm guessing) why it's not on US TV a lot. It is easier for us to condemn all muslims at one stroke than to admit that there are many faces to any society. It is as ridiculous to say that Mel Gibson speaks for all catholics and Larry David speaks for all Jews.
Remember also on 9/12, Muhammed Ali was on TV doing exactly what you just said.
Anyway, you haven't posted for a while...wotcha bin doing?

Posted by: bryan at August 12, 2006 01:49 PM

I've been working, doing physical therapy for a busted knee, and being lazy. I'll try to post soon.:)

I understand there are lots of different Muslims out there, I don't categorize them as all murderous maniacs, but there is a large precentage who agree with Al Queda's message and who go on the attack of the US and Israel instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.

Posted by: Petitedov at August 12, 2006 03:03 PM

I think Saudi Arabia has a huge groundswell of support for Al-Q. They want democracy, and with it will vote themselves in a theocratic dictatorship. Then it'll pretty much be like it is now, but with clerics.
It's just my guess, but I bet you hear more muslims preaching hate on TV than you hear them saying anything else. It's just better TV, and the 'if it bleeds, it leads' attitude of news programmers sees more milage in hatred than in good deeds or sporting excellence done by muslims.
Sorry to hear about the knee; be as lazy as you like!

Posted by: bryan at August 12, 2006 08:08 PM

Perhapes they remember LIEberman as AL GORES running mate and the disgracful way GORE tried to steal the election

Posted by: spurwing plover at August 13, 2006 08:15 PM
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