Great posts...

Anyone sensing new leadership ?????

I posted on another site last night that the yankee's will never be able to communicate with us southern boys. Trying to call someone a 'mohawk' because of his stupid hair cut got his tongue twisted (he was laughing his a** off at the fool). Going to the Breaks Interstate Park Saturday. Beautiful place and well maintained unlike the dumps they call parks in yankee land. LMAO

If you watch the video, it is absolutely crystal clear that he was saying "macaca." You can argue that he meant something else, but he said it twice and he was not tongue tied. Not only that, if you look at a pic, the guy doesn't have anything close to a mohawk. He does on the other hand, have brown skin.

So, you're saying that Allen called him some obscure monkey name?

Your posts at michellemalkin.com have brought me here. I'll be reading...

Cheers,

I'm saying he called a guy with brown skin a monkey, which in my book qualifies as racist. The least condemning explanation is that he learned it from his French mother, as it is a racial epithet in France for North Africans and Arabs. On the other hand, this is a term that's apparently thrown around on "White Power" racist sites, so an American could have learned the term there.

I'm really not one of those liberals who just assumes that conservatives are racist and liberals are not. But racial prejudice is common, and I hope that in America it is (still?) political suicide to make a racist remark in public.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=25302
Here's a link to some ass using macaque as a racial slur against zidane.

Right, Sam L, unless its Democrats calling a black Republican "Uncle Tom" and "Step-an-Fetch-it" or our two Republican Secretaries of State "house n*ggers." Then its perfectly acceptable, "robust" political debate. You sure won't hear the WaPo or NYT condemning it in an editorial.

So you're saying that it was racist, but we should let it go? I'm happy to condemn any Democrat who makes an equivalent comment, but keep in mind that he actually singled out an individual in an all-white crownd based on his race, and called him a monkey. That is pretty damn racist for any elected official, especially a Senator.

There are a whole lot of Dems who made racist "jokes" about Powell and Rice and especially Thomas, but I can't seem to recall any Senators hurling racist slurs at them in public.

Allen has been skewered by Ryan Liazza and the New Republic for his "racist" past. Frankly it made me a bit more sympathetic to the guy.

But here's the thing. Allen is another W He would be sweeping floors if it was not for his daddy. He is just another rich Yankee trying to dress up as a normal Southern guy. Allen mangles his words and stands for zilch. I'm sure Allen will betray conservatives on big government, immigration and other issues just like W. I think real American conservatives need to look elsewhere than this empty suit in 2008.

Try the Democratic pary Von-Bek we've got Lieberman!

or I guess I mean independent party...ecccch

Agreed that Bush and Allen are of a similar mold, though I think you're probably wrong about immigration. If Allen gets elected he's going to rely on the populist rage of his base, and they won't stand for another president who allows brown people in this country.

George Allen is my unfortunate Senator. I knew exactly what he meant when I heard it myself. It's rude and insensitive. Allen and many of the other far-right-wingers have stepped out of reality with this country and what it stands for. It's an insult to me or anyone else who consideres themselves American. I agree that we need to stop worrying about being so PC all of the time, but even I know better than what George Allen does. He has a racist and bigoted past and for people to vote for him they're just voting with racism and/or bigotry. Voting against civil rights on many occaisions.

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2005/05/george_allens_h.html

Karol,

I think you were a bit off in the macaca post with respect to Mukherjee not knowing what macaca meant.

I look at it this way, in 1984 when I was a liberal 11-year old kid admiring the Democrats especially the fiery speakers like Cuomo, Kennedy, Jackson (thinking they were all for racial harmony)... and Jackson made his Hymietown comments. I didn't exactly know what that meant, but I knew it wasn't good. I read that Hymie was a Jewish name, still couldn't figure out exactly how that was racist, but knew immediately that he definitely wasn't expressing his love for the Jews. Of course, more information over the years of that sort and more has completely my opinion of Jackson.

What I'm trying to say is... Sometimes you don't have to stick your head into the shitter to know it stinks.

Add the fact that Mukherjee might have been informed that Allen himself had made the excuse that he didn't know that the word meant.. and then it sounds like he just made up (with his pathetic excuse of a brain) an Indian-sounding name like me calling a black man KuntaWoongaBoonga or a Chinese woman ChingChong instead of just asking them their name.

Torture can never be justified. If someone has to resort to torture to get intelligence, they are incompetent.

I suggest you study methods developed by brigadier general David Irvine (Ret.) which are a kinder, gentler interrogation style: Legal under international military law, effective against the most stubborn enemy, and - above all - moral.