August 09, 2007
Pretend and maybe you'll land a man
The NY Times suggests women are eating meat to get men to like them:
In fact, red meat on a date has become such an effective statement of self-acceptance that even a vegetarian like Sloane Crosley, a publicist at Random House, sometimes longs to order a burger.“Being a vegetarian puts you at a disadvantage,” Ms. Crosley said. “You’re in the most basic category of finicky. Even women who order chicken, it isn’t enough.” She said she has thought of ordering shots of Jägermeister, famous for its frat boy associations, to prove that she is “a guy’s girl.”
“Everyone wants to be the girl who drinks the beer and eats the steak and looks like Kate Hudson,” Ms. Crosley, 28, said.
In my world, of healthy, happy women, we have this crazy concept where we order whatever we feel like eating. Sometimes it's steak, sometimes it's salad and never do we have an eye on how our date feels about it. If you have to eat differently to impress a guy, how much more will you have to do if you actually end up together?
Posted by Karol at August 9, 2007 12:26 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags: Dating
Why not just burp and scratch your imaginary balls, then he'll feel like he's right back in the warm cozy womb of his frat house?
Posted by: Ari at August 9, 2007 12:50 PMWOW! that was some urgent and alarming news, Karol...
Thank god you decided to blog about it instead of anything else of lesser importance that may have happened recently.
Yet eople wonder why there are so many divorces. Because, hey, acting like who she _thinks_ she should be will work so well after the incentive is gone, i.e. she changes her stripes post nuptials.
For some reason there seems to be this belief that "being yourself" doesn't work with dating. I'd think that a person would want to be single for a 1000 years rather than "someone else's ideal"...but that just might be my stubborn streak and loving spouse talking.
Posted by: James at August 9, 2007 01:00 PMWow, E4, let me direct you to blogger.com so that you can start your own blog and blog about Ron Paul all the live long day.
Posted by: Karol at August 9, 2007 01:00 PMhahahaah E4 is funny.
Posted by: not dawn summers at August 9, 2007 01:00 PMok... I'm no fashion or dating expert... but if Sloan wants to get randomly laid more, maybe she should just not wear her grandmothers clothes anymore (and show more clevage):
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/Nerve122.jpg
I think thats her on the right.
Wait a sec... why's she want a man anyway... aren't all vegetarian girls lesbians?
I dunno... I'll shut up now.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAH
sorry.
my second post is more on topic.
I even did a google image search to find out who this Sloan character is.
I don't like her... that was a horribly pathetic thing to say: "maybe if I eat a burger guys will like me"
wow.
Posted by: E4 at August 9, 2007 01:01 PMThe obvious solution is for all women to date vegetarian men. This is absolutely not a suggestion motivated by self interest.
Posted by: Sam L at August 9, 2007 01:13 PMSloane Crosley! She wrote the legendary "White girls with big asses" piece in the Village Voice!
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0432,essay,55800,1.html
Posted by: Steve at August 9, 2007 01:14 PMKarol,
I think the important news that E4 wants you to blog about is today's announcement that the 'Des Moines Citizens for Reverting Back To The 18TH Century' have endorsed Ron Paul.
Ron Paul also got the endorsement of the 'David Duke Israel-Haters Club,' but that was sooo last month's news !
This is just a few paragraphs, the article is actually talking about a positive dating trend. It suggests that women have always liked steak and burgers but only now feel comfortable enough to order them on a first date.
Posted by: Yelena at August 9, 2007 02:36 PMI have always ordered what I want, including steak, but I am more comfortable if the guy orders meat too. I am suspicious that vegetarian guys are effeminate hypocondriac weenies.
If I really want to act like one of the boys I order scotch or bourbon straight up. If i want to show how Continental and sophisticated I am I order a Negroni. (I really like Negronis anyway....)
Posted by: Judith at August 9, 2007 02:49 PMRemember that divorce used to be out of the question. Women act the way they must to catch a guy; to quote Mammy from Gone with the Wind (Mitchell) "Menfolks don't know what dey want. Alls dey know is what dey thinks dey want" We still haven't lost the mentality of thinking, if we can snare a guy in some way, we can keep them forever, regardless of the way we really are. And worse for us, guys are still convinced they want hollywood divas-thin plastic-surgeoned barbies. After they get married and their wives start to get old, they begin to regret not marrying that able, motherly woman that came their way.
Posted by: godandmycountry at August 9, 2007 02:51 PMBold. Very bold indeed, young lady.
Eating meat. In public, no less.
What's next? Tongue-piercings & a lower-back tattoo to demonstrate what an independent thinker you are?
Heaven forefend...
Posted by: Crank at August 9, 2007 03:08 PMGodandmycountry,
I think that the majority of somewhat mature men, especially by their late 20s, _want_ a mentally stable, mature woman--looks are a bonus. The guys who want a Hollywood Bobble Head, at least in my humble opinion, are the ones that end up getting exactly what they deserve (as you laid out). Likewise, those women who are willing to do "anything to catch a man," often find that a man captured under false pretenses is not a man who was worth catching.
But, once again, that's just my opinion from the cheap seats.
Hey Sloane! Why lower your standards when, "Hi! Nice to meet you. Pull my thumb!" will work just the same! That and "getting" the Three Stooges!
Posted by: Bill at August 9, 2007 03:17 PMListen up, people, this is a positive trend and I don't want you mucking it all up by heaping scorn on it. Here's a nice young woman trying to move away from her evil, hippie, communist vegetarian ways. If she's doing it to impress a man, so be it. But at least she's making the right decision. If she were to quit smoking crack to impress a man, it would still be for the overall good. The more meat the better, I say.
Posted by: Ken at August 9, 2007 05:51 PM"Tube Steak Boogie" is running through my head right now...
Posted by: Craig at August 9, 2007 05:54 PMWhile I don't really care what my date eats in a given evening, I have no intention of being prosletized by my SO about the evils of meat. So in general I don't date vegetarians - I've had the sermon too many times from women who earlier swore they were okay with my carnivorous habits.
Posted by: Eric at August 9, 2007 06:55 PMNotice, too, that she's looking for a MAN. Not a hipster, not some wheat-grass swilling yoga instructor. She's looking for a MAN. And real men eat meat ... lots of it. For breakfast lunch and dinner.
Posted by: Ken at August 9, 2007 07:11 PMWhen did dating get this complicated? Just stick to whatever's on your plate, we'll get along fine.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 10, 2007 08:41 AMAre you guys kidding me with this? a)it's a pretty funny comment and b) I think she's obviously joking. If not, I'm disturbed.
Posted by: roberta in boston at August 10, 2007 10:25 AMerr...E4, Sloane Crosley is actually kind of smokin'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/Vachon%20-%20Sloane%20and%20Hud-thumb.JPG
http://youngmanhattanite.com/images/P7130360.JPG
Hey Steve,I liked the off topic big ass article.
So much that i ressurected my long dormant blog and posted!
It's off topic and long so I wont put it here in Karols comment section.
Some of you are picking on this girl Sloan for saying what she said but what she said is true for guys like Ken and a little true for me.
So leave her alone,she speaketh the truth.
how so, Paul?
Isn't it more important that the girl wants to eat meat?
Not that the girl doesn't really want to eat meat, but wants to impress you enough that she suppresses her instinct not to eat meat and just goes through the motions with a fake smile on her face?
If you can't tell the difference right away, eventually you will.
If she doesn't want to eat meat and eats it anyway to impress someone then you got a problem.
If she WANTS to eat meat and at the same time realizes that it will impress the guy then what's the big deal.
Why not just burp and scratch your imaginary balls, then he'll feel like he's right back in the warm cozy womb of his frat house?
Something tells me this broad has a strap-on always handy!
Ladies, remember, swallow the meat but don't chew! :-O
Posted by: Radical Redneck at August 10, 2007 12:43 PMSloane is right. Dating a vegetarian is automatically a pain in the ass. And Sloane is bright enough to figure out what guys talk about when they talk about women: a) is she hot? b) Is she a pain in the ass? I'm not on the date market anymore but if I were surfing Nerve.com I wouldn't even look at the veggies. (Also it tends to be a reliable proxy for out-there leftism).
Hilarious. And Amen. This article has been passed onto me about a million times now and started a serious -- well, semi-serious -- debate with my friends. "Vegetarian" does have a whole set of crappy traits associated with it. BUT...I guess if I was looking on Nerve and I saw a girl with a name like Sloane Crosley who looked hot, that would help make up for it, but sure: I do assume veggies are lame for the most part.
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