Go Johnny Mac!

If you'd rather have that religious nut Huckabee than McCain, you're too much of a political insider. Time to come up for a breath.

I rather have Huck. McCain is erratic, you never know what he stands for. I hate mavericks in leadership roles. Huck, you might not agree with him but at least you know he won't 180 on you.

Are you kidding me? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say Karol. I know how much you "Disdain McCain" (you can keep that one), but going with someone you disagree with because he won't 180 on you? Hmmmm....I hate Bin Laden, but at least I know he'll never change his ways - lets elect him. That your logic??

Ok, Huck is not Bin Laden, but I'm just illustrating the fallacy of your thinking. What Huck is, is a fiscally irresponsible social conservative. For the non-religious conservatives out here, like me, this is a nightmare candidate.

It is what I fear the GOP is becoming. I could never figure out why the religious collectivists tried to be fiscally conservative, when their belief systems tells them otherwise. It seems that the collectivism of Judeo/Christian ethics and the financial collectivism of the left wing liberals should work very well together. Huck seems to be this person. And while I understand his belief system, and do not anticipate him wavering from it, but no means does that make me want to vote for him.

I have never voted for a Dem for the Presidency before, but if it is Hillary vs. Huck, I go Hillary. And I hate Hillary. "Fuck Huck."

Karol, I don't know what your aversion to McCain is all about (though probably can figure it out), but a McCain presidency would be better than a Huckleberry.

McCain Cons - fiscally responsible like Bush 41. He didn't support Bush's tax cuts b/c the GOP Congress wanted to spend money on seaports in Utah, bridges in Alaska, and who know what other waste they thought obliged to.
McCain believes man is responsible for Global Warming. I bet if a noted scientist said man also creates volcanos, hurricanes and earthquakes (pretty much saying we are God), then he'd believe it to. Yes, Rudy has a better approach, be environmentally friendly, but don't believe all the hype.
McCain...Feingold. Big blemish.

But remember, it's not all about the President. the GOP congress, if in the likes of Reagan, didn't want big government, they would've sank Bush's No Child Left Behind and Pre-pilfer Drug Plan. No. They wanted to be "compassionate."

Huckabee sounds like a Bloomberg, just more conservative socially and more liberal when it comes to the free market. If you like all the things Bloomberg is for; more sin taxes, congestion pricing and the I know what's good for you b/c I'm a health nut, then you should take Huck. Also, Huckabee is in with the teachers union and against vouchers and school choice. He's a true anti-choice candidate. On abortion and schooling. :)

I prefer Huck to McCain, mostly because I just don't trust McCain and think he'll always take the media-friendly position. Click the link in the post; McCain's m.o. has always been to screw over conservatives when needed.

I don't want a Huck candidacy and maybe it's because I think it's so unlikely that I don't give him the kind of thought I give a McCain candidacy.

I certainly don't want a McCain candidacy, but I think Huck is more harmful to the conservative position, primarily because he's not conservative. He's a Liberal Republican Christian who would do more harm to the party than McCain.

Although I don't want Huck or McCain, I would rather McCain because of his ability to beat the hell out of Democrats. You talk about Huck not having a viable campaign, which means it's important to make sure he's not the R candidate this year. You say McCain always takes the media-friendly view, but Huckabee has presented himself as charismatic and media-friendly more than McCain this season.

In general, the big concern is who is going to hold to their conservative principles. Neither Huckabee nor McCain will do so, whereas Giuliani and Thompson will. NH is probably a wash, so the focus needs to be on the upcoming NC election as well as the Feb 5th elections.

"In general, the big concern is who is going to hold to their conservative principles."

The problem is that "conservative principles" really no longer exist, or certainly have been perverted to a point where they are no longer recognizable or identifiable.

I pronounced conservatism as a failed ideology back on March and everything that has unfolded on the right since then has manifested this concept, because you can't call something a relevant, living political movement if its actions and premises have no actual relevance to the nation and the world anymore.

The neocons who infested the conservative movement steeped it in hatred and invective without ever addressing any of the concerns that Americans had, and got away with it for years.

Now you see a bunch of sanctimonious, overcooked,, barking dogs with bipolar disorder, who hate all intellectualism and science, and alternate between screeching for wars in foreign sovereign lands and raping their countrymen through unchecked corporatism and shock tactics.

Security? The neocons cannot, and WILL not, even secure THIS nation's borders.

The nation is ready for a fundamental shift in national values. The ideologies are dead.

We need more voices, more parties. The electoral college must be abolished...

Reconstruction cannot begin until the neocons are totally, irrevocably purged from American political life.

It's simply a matter of who is most qualified to govern until this is accomplished. The present party affiliations will ultimately matter little.

Oh, another IMHO regarding McCain...

I have never been able to dislodge the memory of how the Bush Crime Family war machine, in conjunction with Karl Rove, absolutely smeared McCain's wife and daughter down south, and McCain went crawling back to the shrub, forsaking the honor of his family for benefit of his own political purposes.

Obviously, we've seen far worse since those days, but I cannot shake the idea that, if he will treat his family with such callous disregard, God forbid what he will do to the country.

"Security? The neocons cannot, and WILL not, even secure THIS nation's borders"

hashman, you saying Harry Pelosi, Nancy Reid, Mitch McConnell, Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, Lyndsey Graham, Charlie Rangel, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, oh heck, I ain't gonna list all 500+ of them... but my point... you saying all these folks are neocons? Because policy is written by Congress and congress is made up of Democrats, Republicans and the occasional oddball, so if you don't know this, perhaps you should move to say Venezuala where there's one man rule and you can grasp the government's concept. Here, we have many folks involved so as not to give too much power to one man or one woman. Clearly, folks have proposed border policy, but we have 500+ folks getting paid for sitting on their hands.

"....you saying all these folks are neocons?..."

Well, at least seven of them are.

Taking neocon money and doing their bidding makes them equal if not more loathsome then the ones that pay them.

"...perhaps you should move to say Venezuala where there's one man rule and you can grasp the government's concept..."

Will you pay my expenses, pay me reparations for my losses, rebuild my career, enable me to rise to the ruling classes, and establish full recompense for every lost opportunity I may have POTENTIALLY lost, if it had been possible to remain here safely?

Well, that would be fair turnabout. Because I'm paying yours every day of my life.

Think about it.

I'll gladly go. I just want the same deal you got to remain.

"Here, we have many folks involved so as not to give too much power to one man or one woman."

Absolutely, for better or for worse.

"Clearly, folks have proposed border policy, but we have 500+ folks getting paid for sitting on their hands."

Correct, but that's not MY fault. Are you ascribing blame to me?

I don't even approve of LEGAL immigration, much less enforcing the laws already on the books, and it was the Bush Crime Family who tossed those two border guards into the clink.

Daniel, I'm not sure where your argument lies.

NO MCAMNISTY FOR ME! I live in Southern California and John McAmnisty wants to give our country away like Presidente Jorge Bush is doing. I want the border shut tight and the mexicans rounded up and put back in their own country. My neighborhood has gang tagging, the schools can't give away free lunches and breakfasts fast enough. "push 1 for English" is now the norm... I want my country back! The demoncrats, McAmnesty and his shamnisty pal Lindsey Ghramnisty sure won't get my vote. I would rather vote for a demoncrat, let them screw things up for four years, and then try again with a REAL conservative. I want an angry white man to step up and TAKE MY COUNTRY BACK! Maybe Lou Dobbs will run.

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