Actually, this issue should not make it to the general election. The Delagates should not install a man elected by fraud.

Two things I hate about McCain: immigration and global warming.

Is it scathing? It's timely and pushes the right buttons. It lets McCain (rather, his on-record remarks) do most of the talking. Its conclusion might be hasty, or hastily-arrived at, but it's one many of us are pondering....

Well, let's see if Hawkins changes his tune when Sen. McCain names a pro wrestler or a member of Insane Clown Posse as VP...

I agree with Hawkins. I am no longer convinced having McCain good for GOP long term. He will most likely be facing a Dem Super Majority or close . All the Bills he will get will be leftist bills. He will make friends with Reid and Pelosi and a GOP President will take the blame for Universal Healthcare , Amnesty and other such nonsense. I believe the phrase used " On his watch". Let Obama screw up for 4 years and regroup as a party.

No, none of us will like it, but we have to live with the alternative if we don't. And none of us likes that either.

I used the exact same logic voting for Kerry. I still have a foul taste in my mouth.

Dennis, Bush seems to have successfully managed to divorce himself from the whole "on my watch" problem.
I read somewhere that he could shore up the problems mentioned by having someone like Romney as a running mate. He difininitely needs somebody who could be seen as the next president, not least because of his age.

I don't know if the boogie man strategy is going to work this time out for the GOP. Look as bad as Bush is on a whole host of issues, we got to give the guy points for naming same good justices to join the Nazgul, our nine robed masters in black over at the SCOTUS. Despite a good record on Roberts and Alito, the guy also tried to name Harriet Miers. McCain seems to be a lot worse than Bush on judges (Gang of 14?). Oh, I'm sure the usual appartniks will be urging us to support the Party no matter what but I for one am very interested in who McCain picks for VP and what he starts taking about on the campaign trail. I'm in what seems to be a close state and if McCain drifts any further left....groan I may have to vote for Chuck Baldwin or whoever comes out of the LP fight tomorrow (unless Alan Keyes names me as his VP nominee since I'm the only conservative in America who is a bigger pompous blowhard than Keyes so maybe I'll make him look good).

Well, if one doesn't like McCain and doesn't live in a battleground state, is this the year to go third party?

the problem with the Third Party option is the candidates.
Chuck Baldwin does not see Jihadists as a threat.
The LP has lost consistency.
I've spoken to Wayne Allen Root. He is a good guy, but he is TV material not presidential.
Mike Gravel is running now as a libertarian, reminding us that some liberatrians are so drugged out that they are willing to accept a socialist, so long as he guarantees that we lose against Al Qaeda. (Reminds me of Obamacons.)
Finally, there is Bob Barr, who used to be a good Republican. Sadly he has just plain lost it.

Barr has sold out (or is it drop acid?) on immigration.

He supported the McCain-Kennedy-Bush deal and opposes local efforts to crack down on illegal aliens.

GOP hotheads wrong about immigration bill
http://www.bobbarr.org/default.asp?pt=newsdescr&RI=853

Immigration belongs at the federal level
http://www.bobbarr.org/default.asp?pt=newsdescr&RI=868

Barr also believes that banks and business should subidies and support illegal aliens.

Immigration indigestion
http://www.bobbarr.org/default.asp?pt=newsdescr&RI=829

Barr claims to oppose illegal immigration but opposes any measure to actually reduce it, much less deal with criminal invaders in the US. He is scum just like the blue female dogs lead on leashes by Pelosi and the Republicans who see teh light only in the fall of even years.

Barr now wants us out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Personally, I'd write in Duncan Hunter, except that write ins are ignored.

McCain is more suited to be Hussein's VP than a republican president.

I had to reread the following a few times to figure out whether this is come kind of messed up satire: "Put very simply: John McCain is a liar. He's a man without honor, without integrity, who could not have captured the Republican nomination had he run on making comprehensive immigration a top priority of his administration."

Unfortunatley, it seems that it is not and it is clear that John Hawkins is a big joke. Slandering a true American hero like this is not really worth a response.

However, it is worth addressing the continuing myths in the anti-immigration conservative (mostly blog) echo-chamber that should have been clearly dispelled to any fair minded observer:
1)Anti-Immigration is the "true" conservative position
2)This is an issue that rank and file conservatives care about

1) Wall Stree Journal Editorial Board, Weekly Standard, numerous contributors of Commentary Magazine, and the Club for Growth continue to support immigration
2) Tom Tancredo who carried the anti-immigration mantle was probably the biggest failure of the campaign cycle besides Mike Gravel - followed closely by Duncan Hunter who held similarly extreme views.
-John McCain's top priority for his administration during the campaign, and fortunatley now, is winning the war on islmaic terrorism - And that is the issue that most conservatives truly care about and that is why he won the primary. Hence, it was named the "No Surrender Tour."

Finally, I find the continuing fuming against John McCain by this echo chamber on this point laughable. After having 0 effect on the primary (it might be helpful to point out, the primary is the time when only the most devoted/ informed party members turn out), these blowhards continue to posture as though they represent the true feelings of conservative voters that McCain will need to win the general election. In fact, by adopting their position/tone, John McCain only risks turning off Hispanic voters in states like Florida and New Mexico - and plenty of white voters in many suburban districts.

However, if making sure that your fast food is served by someone (preferrably an Anglo-Saxon white) who speaks perfect English is more important then winning the war against Islamic Terrorists - then go ahead and don't support McCain (I'm almost sure he doesn't want it anyways). Luckily, the vast majority of true conservatives won't share your sentiment.

Don't be silly Eliezer. The biggest flops in the presidential races are those who were supposed to complete and fell flat on their faces (Brownback, Rudy, Thompson, John Edwards).

As for your leading sources of American conservatism, well if you think America runs from the East to the Hudson, that America is an idea and not a place, and that the traditions that have been here for almost 400 years mean nothing, then by all means read the assorted musings of the Straus, Trotsky and Sharansky wing of American conservatism.

What matters to normal Americans is not who is flipping our burgers. It's maintaining the lives they have known for a long time. Crime (including the invasion of criminals from south of the border) affects a heck of a lot more of us on a daily basis than what happens in Iraq. Instead of wanting to spread democracy in a people with no history or tradition of it, we want to protect our values, traditions and faith in our public life. I know; I know. Hard to imagine there are people who care more about what happens down the street than what happens across the globe but there you go. We have homes instead of being citizens of the world.

And yeah most conservatives seem to be sharing these sentiments. Out here in the heartland, those of us conservatives who like Elvis and Jesus seem to be less than thrilled with the Republican brand (I'd point you to a few recent congressional elections where conservative Dems won or a lot of conservatives went fishing on election day). Will McCain reel a lot of them in? Sure. But that will because they loathe Obama more than McCain.

And look who McCain was up against. A populist from Arkansas who few people had heard of (and did well nonetheless). A Mormon who flip flops more than John Kerry. And a former mayor of New York who supports same sex marriage and partial birth abortion. I think a lot of real American conservatives went for McCain for the simple reason that the rest of the field stunk-just like what will happen in November; not because the Wall Street Journal editorial board and Norman Podheretz like some of his ideas.

John McAmnesty McCain is a big fat liar. I have two issues with Juan.

1. The rule of law - True Republicans respect the law and upholding. Handing amnesty to people who broke the law for breaking the law is not respectful to the law. It teaches disrespect - if you don't agree with a law, just change it and grandfather in those who broke it. And it's a slap in the face to all Americans who received punishment for breaking the law.

2. The USA system is one of representation. Juan told us Americans that he didn't give a damn what we thought, what he thought was far more important and would be the way he would cast his vote that is suppose to represent us!

For this reason the American hero, John McAmnesty McCain, does not deserve to hold any job in the US Government. Hero status does not confer special rights when it comes to properly fulfilling your duty to represent the people who elect you.

"1. The rule of law - True Republicans respect the law and upholding."
Some might say that there is a contrary argument to this statement.

Sorry, I phrased that badly. Please ignore. The get out word for that statement is "True" as in "true republicans". It's like me saying "true englishmen wear bowler hats to work and play cricket"