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August 14, 2008

I'll bake you a cookie

I swear this is not going to become a cooking blog, swear, but I need some help and, well, you guys know everything.

As if this cookie recipe isn't hard enough (it makes a total of six cookies, it has to be made 24 hours ahead of time and don't even get me started on the fèves), it calls for two different kinds of flour: cake flour and bread flour. My local Food Emporium has no less than a dozen brands and types of flour, none of which are the kind that I need for this recipe. So, I guess my question is do these flours go by another name (for example, my supermarket has "self-rising flour" which I figured might be another way of saying bread flour) and, if not, where do I get these fancy flours?

UPDATE: After an excruciating visit to Fairway (sidenote: there's one guy in the entire store than knows what planet he's on, he works in the cheese department and he is awesome. Actual conversation I heard him having with an old pissed-off Upper West Side woman: "We love working here and seeing people flip out while shopping. It's what makes our jobs worth doing." And then he showed me some cheese, actually having information on the product he's selling and everything, and there was like a pie someone just left on the cheese rack and he said "and this is the other fun part".) I have officially given up on this recipe, sorry IC. They have like 40 different kinds of flour, none of them called "bread flour" or "cake flour". Chocolate chip cookies shouldn't be this hard. I quit.

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doesn't fairway's 2nd level have flour in bulk bins?

in opinion, if you're going to do that much work for a cookie, may as well make a cake. how good does this look?

http://smittenkitchen.com/2008/08/chocolate-peanut-butter-cake/

Posted by: pn at August 14, 2008 11:27 AM

I saw that! And I'm going to go ahead and ruin the surprise by saying I'm going to bake that for IC's birthday in a few weeks. Also, I'm making her lime cookies today.

Posted by: Karol at August 14, 2008 11:38 AM

And, I mean, I'll go to Fairway (and to its third ring of hell second floor) if I have to but that is REALLY too much work for a cookie. Fairway makes me crazy, and not in a fun way.

Posted by: Karol at August 14, 2008 11:43 AM

Cake flour; Do We Need it and Why? An Explanation of Gluten and the Effects Thereof, and Other Factors in the Specialness and Particularity of Flour…
It seems like a silly way to make you buy more stuff, but there are a few real differences between cake flour, standard flour, and bread flour, and they can make a real difference in how your baked goods come out.
The first issue is GLUTEN. Cake flour has a much lower protein content than regular flour. Bread flour has more. Yes, Virginia, there is protein in flour. It is called gluten. (I know about this more than most because one of my nearest and dearest suffer from Celiac Disease, where he suffers greatly from ingesting any of this said gluten, but that is another story. Anyone interested in financing my gluten free restaurant, please contact me.) Gluten is very good for bread, as it creates a stretchy dough. You want bread to have some bite and heft. But cake should be light and fluffy, not chewy. So, cake flour = less gluten, bread = more gluten.
Cake flour is also milled from specific types of wheat that have lower protein contents, extra finely, and often bleached more, the result causing the protein in the flour to break down even further. This causes cake flour to be better than other flours at two important things – making sure that that it holds large amounts of fat and sugar, while still remaining fluffy and light.
Bread flour, on the other hand, is made from wheat known to have higher gluten content, and will have small amounts of malted barley flour and vitamin c or potassium bromate added. These additives help yeast develop and fulfill it’s self-actualization, and also function to make the existing gluten extra stretchy and retain gas from the yeast as the bread rises and bakes.

INTERCHANGEABLE?
Maybe, but maybe not. Use bread flour or all purpose flour for bread, don’t use cake flour.
Use cake flour or all purpose flour for cakes, don’t use bread flour. If a recipe calls for one cup of cake flour, you can sub ¾ cup sifted bleached all purpose flour and two tablespoons of cornstarch.

Posted by: Yana at August 14, 2008 11:49 AM

For cake flour, you can get Swan's Down brand at Gristedes. As you can make bread using any kind of flour, just get the Hecker's Unbleached for the "bread flour."

The recipe sounds a bit fussy, though... the equivalent of a foie gras hamburger.

For additional cookie recipes, I reccomend Richard Sax's Classic Home Desserts and Margaret Fox's Cafe Beaujolais cookbook.

Posted by: Cristina at August 14, 2008 12:22 PM

Karol, it's 16 cookies, not six. Or even 18 - as they say at the end of the recipe.

[still, even for 16 cookies: 1 1/4 POUNDS of chocolate "disks"?]

Posted by: Tatyana at August 14, 2008 12:56 PM

Try this recipe from Nancy Rommelmann instead: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/what_we_can_give/

I have made it many times before with great success. Very easy, no frills ingredients, makes a decent amount of cookies, and people rave.

Posted by: Angela at August 14, 2008 03:17 PM

My two favorites:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Annas-Chocolate-Chip-Cookies/Detail.aspx

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Award-Winning-Soft-Chocolate-Chip-Cookies/Detail.aspx (be sure to sift the pudding mix to avoid hard pieces in the cookie)

Both are reallllllly good. The second one is better if you aren't serving the cookies right away. The pudding mix acts as a preservative or something.

Posted by: Karol at August 14, 2008 04:02 PM

I've tasted your chocolate chip cookies and they were great!

Posted by: Poker player at August 14, 2008 08:34 PM
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