Oh, so now I don't get my own unicorn and island?? I knew this dude was bullshit!

Yes, the orgy will end, when they find out he can't turn water into wine.

I think he overdid it a bit. Once people start talking about the government paying their rent anyone with an IQ above 80 has to wonder how much of this is just smoke.

It was interesting that, in his infomercial, McCain was not mentioned once. I fear that McCain has as a major plank in his campaign, the fear of Obama (although at least half of it is perfectly reasonable IMO).
The positive campaigning by Obama (the person) has served to make McCain/Palin look more negative. I put forward the idea that "I'm not the other guy/and his party" as a slogan will only get you so far (this of course is in the Obama playbook too).
Obama sends out his attack hounds to parry the attacks made on him, leaving Obama to seem more positive.
All this positive stuff has a price. If anyone seems above the dirty politics, the expectations will be high, and perhaps unrealistic.
Looking at the economy, and the recession, leaders in the past have used the 'all hands to the pumps for now, we get honey tomorrow' play. I would say that this would have to happen whoever wins.

More and more I'm struck that Obama's campaign would be doing half as well against a clear-eyed, easy to understand conservative. However, we got John McCain--a man whose fingerprints are on the blunt object used in the worst attack on the Constitution in recent history, whose DNA sample was found at the attempted murder of our nation known as shamnesty, and who was one of the hosts for the forced emasculation of his party's judicial policy.

The GOP needs to find its collective spine and raid the brain trust for 2012 regardless of how this election turns out. Personally I'm hoping Mr. Hope and Change wins simply because, yeah, it'll be fun to watch for two years before sanity is forcibly reestablished via mid-term elections. But then again, even that may be a false hope given that most of the same band of idiots (can anyone talk Coburn into stocking around?) will be saying, "It's my turn to be a Congressional leader!" even if there's a GOP rout.

It's a shame the man who you busted a gut to elected last time didn't issue a statement for your benefit. Something along the lines of "fiscally, you won't really be able to put a cigarette paper between me and the Democrats. Also, in my final year I will throw incredible amounts of money at Wall St in an attempt to interfere in the market place".
Wouldn't it have been nice of him to manage your expectations?

Urbane, I had no illusions about Bush, in particular about his big government ways. And I'd still take a third Bush term over either of the doofuses in this election.

Trouble is Karol, the electorate wouldn't.

Oh, I don't know about that. Rove would have chopped the Indo-Kenyan Karpetbagger, and his Chicago political mob to pieces. There is a reason why we don't let aviators run our wars.

I'd take a third Bush term, as well. But mainly I think it's good to have a weak, unpopular President rather than one that people look up to and respect.

I should add that I think things are going pretty good in this country -- economic cycle notwithstanding -- and there's not much good reason to change horses at this point.

However, I suppose arguing to change constitutionally-mandated term limits two days before the election is a little late. Shoulda spoken up earlier.

I should add (now that I'm thinking about it and on the subject) that one reason I'm not worried about an Obama Presidency is that I heard all the same fearmongering from liberals in 2000 and 2004, and none of their fears came to pass.

The right today reminds me of the left in 2000 and 2004, so it's hard for me to take them very seriously.

Ah Joe, so you're one of those relativists. How sad for you. I'm sure you're right though. Larry Tribe on the Supreme Court, onerous taxation, what could it matter. I'm just curious to see which turd they'll dredge up to be the SecDef. The population to choose from is awfully small. It's either McNamara/Aspen types, long on ideas, short on experience, or the appalling dregs of the non-partisan general officer ranks who've become lefty dicksuckers.

I have no idea what a relativist is (honestly). And if I were one, why would that be sad for me? Again, totally honest question.

Wait, do you mean a moral relativist? Cause if so, I'm pretty sure I'm not one of those.

"The right today reminds me of the left in 2000 and 2004, so it's hard for me to take them very seriously."

Something that I have been thinking myself of late.
There was all that stuff floating about then "Bush is a fascist / Bush = Hitler" kind of crap.
Now some of the right have a hair up their ass about Obama being a Marxist!!!
That's not to mention the e mails that have been doing the rounds in Church groups for the last year spreading scare stories about him - I have had the dubious honour of receiving a running commentery on these from a true believer/blind follower from KC. They did the trick on her at least. She's shiteing herself at the prospect of a Obama presidency.

Well, if there were pictures of Bush attending Nazi rallies, or had he made pro-NAZI statements ala Joe Kennedy, you'd have a case. Since there was never any evidence of dubyah being a fascist, and there is a ton of evidence that BO is a Marxist, I guess you don't. To not be able to discern the difference between the two sides would make one a relativist.

Barak Obama is a man of the far left influenced heavily by Marxism. He is a second generation red-diaper baby. His first mentor "Frank" or Franklin Marshall Davis was a member of the US communist party, key in the effort to turn from classical class politics to racial recruiting. Obama then spent his early adult life and political career working the Third Way Communists in ACORN and the New Party. He associated with communist terrorists like Ayers and Dohrn and lived in a climate where this was acceptable, when he was a lecturer on reinterpreting the Consitution into nothing. Similarly he went to a "church" that was more heavily influenced by Fannon than Jesus.

These are facts. Its not my fault that the Democrats between two followers of Alinsky.

@Casca
Thanks for the explanation. I see what you're saying.

A ton of evidence? Maybe I missed his speech urging the lumpen proletariat to grab control of the means of production.
Marx or Alinsky? Make up your minds. Alinsky seems to have lacked the nihilistic tendancy of your average Marxist revolutionary - even going as far as mobilising stockholders in major corporations.
That echo laden sound of metal on wood is getting louder.