And leave it to Dorian to get a link from Karol and to have exceeded bandwidth so that I can't read what he wrote!

I had the window open from earlier, here it is in its entirety:

"No on Prop 8, the not-for-profit that Democrats set up to challenge California’s proposed same sex marriage ban, could be the most ill-conceived thing to come out of Hollywood since Flubber. Despite its record $35 million in contributions and help from Ellen Degeneres and other stars, it went down in flames on Election Day, no pun intended.

I’m not the first to complain.

The Los Angeles Times writes that No on Prop 8 declined to use the term “hate” in its advertising, deeming that too divisive. And Joe writes that it should have anticipated resistance from African Americans and tried to mitigate that.

I expected a bold campaign. But No on Prop 8 - the Bob Shrum of non-profits - chose a more cautious approach, airing ads that made no mention of marriage at all, as Michael points out. Leave it to Democrats to spend $35 million and come back with magic beans."

I don't watch television a lot, but the opponents of Proposition 8 had one commercial that I saw several times in which a young, beautiful bride tried to walk down the aisle at an outdoor wedding while the guests tried to hold her back and grab her wedding dress. At the end, the announcer said something like, What if you couldn't marry the person you love? Another commercial narrated by Dianne Feinstein showed scenes of Japanese people being sent to relocation camps and black people being attacked in civil rights demonstrations. So there were commercials that mentioned marriage, but I don't know who paid for them.

Actually, the law passed by the voters, that was spiked by the fucktard lawyers on our state supreme court, was closer to 60/40 if memory serves. I attribute two things to closing the gap: The wording, voting yes if you're against this disingenuous attack on the American family; and the bang for their buck that the homos got out of their $35mil. The bar has been raised now. Why it's part of the Cali Constitution you know, and we know how sacred constitutional rights are.

Could there be anything more awkward than being a gay Mormon in California right now? (Besides maybe a gay black Mormon, I guess.)

Casca -

One could argue that straight people got some bang out of their $37 million, no?

The sad thing is that the "No on Prop 8" folks are having a lot of their work undone by the village idiot temper tantrums. When you start ambushing little old lady restaurant owners, that's a bad thing. Sending powder to Mormon temples--even worse.

It's going to keep going until someone gets shot, and I think that's coming sooner rather than later.

DD, true enough, but from a strictly technical view, and having lived through the experience, IMHO, the queers did a much better job. They had their goon squads out in force before the election too. You couldn't keep a "Yes" sign in your yard.

Jeez Karol, I followed the link, and it reminded me of a very hot day in a nice part of Chicago on Lake Shore Drive when I ducked into a cool dark bar for a quick beer, and found myself in the company of the village people. I left a germane comment, but since I wouldn't recommend frequenting the place, and my words are pearls, of wisdom, not the kind the oriental girl pulls out of your butt right before orgasm. I'll drag them back here:

That's right, go out and shoot the wounded. The trouble with deceiving oneself is that it becomes habit. Marriage is about forming families, and raising children, blood of your blood. Oh of course there are marriages of convenience, and the occasional gold digger, but the act is mostly reserved for those young, foolish, and hormonally driven enough to sail to the new world of youth soccer and SUV's. It isn't a fashion statement, or a savvy economic move to gain spousal benefits, and I'm afraid that's how most people who've sailed that sea see the move to bless the union of the love that oh God please get them to shut up about its name. It's not that the leaders of the "No" vote failed. The story is that they got so close, and if you know anything about the numbers, you know that it wasn't that close. Accept reality, you can't polish a turd. Your life will be a happier one.

Ahhhhh! Mormons!

Scary, scary, Mormons....

How would demonizing the electorate, and highlighting the fact that you wanted to redefine marriage through judicial fiat, have helped their cause?

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