November 19, 2008
Bye-bye Kathleen Parker (who?)
Via Hot Air Headlines, Jonah Goldberg finally smacks down Kathleen Parker. Or as Kevin Williamson quoted Ann Coulter to me last night, THE Kathleen Parker who has come to prominence because she is a conservative who seemingly hates conservatives, and really hates Sarah Palin. Sorry, we already fell for this once, his name was Andrew Sullivan, and we're all done with the "no really, I'm a conservative, I just disagree with every single thing conservatives stand for and believe. What? What? I am!"
I read a ton of conservative writing and had never heard of this woman before her scathing piece on Palin became every liberal's favorite item to quote. Let's send her back to the obscurity in which she belongs.
Posted by Karol at November 19, 2008 01:32 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags: Kathleen+Parker
Hers is the "conservative" column that small-town newspapers (like the one where I grew up) will buy because they can't afford anyone that normal people have heard of. She's basically the "conservative" Maureen Dowd, and I look forward to her march to obscurity.
Posted by: Nikhil at November 19, 2008 01:54 PMI'm with you on kathleen parker, but I'm getting sick and tired of people who love palin, but hate huckabee for being too religous....I hate it to break it to you, but huck and palin have identical social views....
Huck is far knowledgeable on domestic and foreign issues then palin....so please cut the bullshit about how great palin is and how awful huck is...got it, Karol?
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 02:02 PMWhat the hell did Huck implant in Larry's brain?!?? He can not make a comment on this site without spreading the Huck message...
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2008 02:23 PMI really don't understand why people keep covering her columns, she really does need to be ignored.
Oh and as far as Palin and Huck being the "same" - not even close. Palin does not invoke her religion as a reason to vote/endorse her Huck does it all the time. They may have identical social views, but they have very different views on what that means to the voter.
"I hate it to break it to you, but huck and palin have identical social views..."
That's true. The difference between them is that Huckabee had tried to use his political power to push his views into law just like the Nanny-Staters we conservatives dislike and Palin hasn't.
Posted by: Jimmie at November 19, 2008 02:36 PMIC,
the Cowboys beat The Skins and you get all excited and want to bash Huck on top of it.
You brainwashed her into being a Cowboy fan and she's brainwashed you into hating the Huckster....how sad.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 02:49 PMHuck uses religon to get people to vote for him?
interesting....Huck is true to who he is...he's not a phony christian....but to suggest that religon is what he's about is insane....he tried to talk about every other issue, but he was marginalized or asked about religon non stop.
the time he talks about religon extensively is when he's talking to people where all that social stuff matters.
by the way, you're right...Huck and palin are nowhere near the same...Huck has an actual record...he's a proven leader for 10 years...he actually has ideas and understands all the issues.
Palin as of right now is a complete joke...she doesn't have anywhere near the sophistication on the issues that Huck has....maybe she'll learn, but not right now.
Nanny state?...I keep hearing this about Huck...it's flat out bullshit....let me give one example...
It's been said that Huck is for a national ban on smoking...now if I hear that without knowing the facts, I would think that means he wants to ban smoking.
now let's look at reality...what he said was that the wants to ban smoking in the workplace...and he did that in Arkansas, I believe....on a national level, he said he would support the same ban if Congress came to him with a bill...we know that's not going to happen...he said he believed the issue should be a state issue.
Mike is a common sense Republican.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 03:01 PMIn other words, Larry, he favors a national smoking ban just liek the one he forced onto business owners in Arkansas. That's nanny-statism no matter how you Huckabize it.
Posted by: Jimmie at November 19, 2008 03:06 PMI think the comparisons to Maureen Dowd and Andrew Sullivan are a bit much, but her columns have become almost intolerably smug and sanctimonious over the past couple of months. I'm glad Jonah gave them an appropriate smackdown.
That being said, Save the Males is a pretty interesting book, although not exactly groundbreaking in any of its revelations. Christina Hoff Somers has done much more extensive work in the same area.
Larry:
While I'm certainly happy with the Boys win, they've got bigger fish to fry over the next 2 months than the reeling skins...
And yes, i most certainly brainwashed K (and bought her gear) to persuade her to root for the Boys but she didn't need to brainwash me re Huck. As a NY jew, i can't get behind a bible thumping conservative (who doesn't have W as his middle initial)
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2008 03:11 PMAnd I like bible thumpers, for the record, but not when they tell me they want to change the Constitution to better reflect the bible (and here comes Larry's awesome defense: Huck didn't really mean it, he was just trying to win an election).
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 03:13 PMJimmie,
I completely support that ban on smoking...it's also a public safety issue...you call it nanny state...I call it common sense.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 03:18 PMPeople will warm up to Huckabee once his compulsory jogging initiative is enacted.
And proselytizing loved ones into rooting for Dallas is worse than being a Jehovah's Witness, IMO.
:0/
Posted by: Gerard at November 19, 2008 03:18 PMIC,
As a Jew from NY, I could care less about his bible thumping...I'm not a social conservative...I would never vote for someone based on social views.....unless he demanded that we all go to sunday school
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 03:24 PMKarol,
you really need to get over it...if that's the only thing you've got; then that's a sad commentary....you can do better then that.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 03:26 PMSmoking ban is NOT a health issue. There has never been a conclusive study to say that second hand smoke is harmful. Smoking is harmful, but so is chocolate cake - I rather my government focus on giving me more freedom and choices, than less. It is completely a Nanny state stance. Huck believes in "government-driven solutions to people's problems," not the quite the image I want of a conservative leader.
Posted by: Petitedov at November 19, 2008 03:37 PMSmoking is a potential health issue...it's also a potential safety issue at the workplace.
and if "conservtives" have this restrictive mentality, we will never win another election.
for example, the notion that raising any tax is a bad thing is bogus...spreading the wealth is bogus, but raising a gas/cigarette tax to build a much needed road; that 80% of the people voted for is common sense, not liberalism.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 03:44 PMLarry smoking is a safety issue? Seriously? You don't trust adults to use a matches/lighters? Gee, what would we do if we didn't have brilliant Governors such as Huckabee protecting us from our dumb selves. /sarcasm
Instead of raising taxes governments need to learn to prioritize and cut spending, but it's always "we need to raise taxes for roads, police, schools" never we need cut spending on non-essential programs. Sorry if that's too narrow of a conservative point for you.
Parker sucks but conservatism is about more than trumpeting the Grand Old Pravda. It's too bad that National Review does not seem to get that.
While Andrew Sullivan is good on some issues (small government and taxes), I think a lot of the right fell in love with him on the war back in 2001 and 2002. For what it is worth, Sullivan was backing Ron Paul who was certainly more conservative than Rudy G. and John McCain.
Posted by: Von Bek at November 19, 2008 04:08 PMI'm sure most people don't want to sit at work and have people smoking around them....I support the ban 100%
I suggest you research Arkansas budget before you bash huck..it's easy to say he should have cut spending....he did what he had to do....again, if 80% of the people supported it, I see no issue with it.
By the way, these same conservatives who bash him, also supported these bailouts...doesn't sound to conservative, does it?...The Huckster was against these bailouts from day one.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 04:10 PMVon Bek, and then he backed Obama. So much for anything resembling conservatism.
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 04:15 PMThat's right. Sullivan is not an American conservative.
Posted by: Von Bek at November 19, 2008 04:17 PMThat's right. Sullivan is not an American conservative. He calls himself a Tory and I think that is pretty much where his politics are. William Hague would be a moderate Republican if he were in the USA and I think that is where Sullivan is.
Posted by: Von Bek at November 19, 2008 04:18 PMI would be against the bailouts too, if I wasn't running for office at the moment and had a cushy job at Fox. He might be genuinely against it, but I'm inclined to think it's politically savy/easy for him to be against them right now.
I don't care about the particular tax hike, per se, but I have listened to what he has said and I don't like it.
Oh, it doesn't matter what people like or dislike. I want more choice as a business person to decide whether to light or not to light up in my work place. I don't want a law limiting me in something that is perfectly legal, like smoking. That's not what I want my elected government to spend time/energy on.
Posted by: Petitedov at November 19, 2008 04:23 PMAnd since I am thinking about it, I think Sullivan would be defined as a conservative by the ISI's "American Conservatism: An Encyclopedia." Why? Because everybody is one apparently. Abe Lincoln and Jeff Davis. Tom Jefferson, John Adams and Alexander Hamilton. Dan Webster and John Calhoun. Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft and William Jennings Bryan. Barry Goldwater and Robert Lowell. Joe McCarthy and Eugene McCarthy. Sheesh.
Posted by: Von Bek at November 19, 2008 04:29 PMUm, who cares if he's not running for president when he said he was against the bailout?...we know he's going to run again in 2012 or 16...if the bailout works, it will be used against him and vice versa.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 04:34 PMYou want to light up, go outside and do it...I guarantee, the majority of people don't like working and having people around them smoking...the ban is in the best interest of the common good...like I said, Huck is about common sense...being 100% conservative on every issue is not being right 100% of the time.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 04:37 PMLarry, you clearly don't understand what the term "nanny state" means. What you're describing IS the nanny state. "For your own good" is exactly how they push through measures, and while you may agree with some of them like smoking, it sets a bad precedent when the government tells us what we can and can not do "for our own good." Now that you've admitted that Huck is a nanny-state guy, can you understand why we would oppose him because of it?
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 04:41 PMKarol,
let me try this one more time...and I'll do it slowly...
I am only talking about the smoking issue....like I said before, if you so called conservatives continue to be so narrow minded; you'll have democrats running the country for a loooong time.
I'll take common sense over conservatism any day of the week.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 04:46 PMLarry, you just don't get it. Conservatism is a philosophy, part of which says that the government stays out of our lives as much as possible. Your boy Huck says those words but then thinks its the government's job to help people smoke less or exercise more or do other things that are for our own good. That's the very definition of "nanny state". Why do you refuse to accept that?
And on another point about Huck, remember his using G-d to explain why we should pay for illegal immigrants to go to college? G-d says we should! That was his explanation. And so while I may have no problem with bible thumpers, I do have a problem with "G-d says so" as an argument for anything.
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 05:08 PMKarol,
Show me where Huck mandates that you will smoke less and excercise more....banning smoking at the workplace is not a mandate on less smoking...and like I said before, he believes it should be a state issue.
I understand what you're saying about conservatism...and like I told you, I don't believe conservatism is 100% right if you just go by the letter of the "law"...sometimes common sense needs to take over.
Regarding the immigrant issue...I understand why some would oppose his position...I understood why he was in favor..it was alot more then G-d...it was the notion that kids shouldn't be punished for the sins of their parents....compassionate conservative....but as usual, his position was distorted...it was made to believe that he was in favor for all kids to have tuition breaks...when i fact it was for kids who spent their entire time in the school systems and were honor roll students...and part of the tuition breaks would include them having to become citizens.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 05:32 PMPeople, people, can we focus here? What's this Kathleen Parker look like? Has she at least got a nice rack? Maybe it's all boob envy? Could she be Larry in drag? Enquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Casca at November 19, 2008 05:35 PMLarry sounds like the last member of the Bobby Sherman Fan Club, desperately posting everywhere about the great neglected talents of, like, the dreamiest guy ever!
Posted by: BridgetHanley at November 19, 2008 05:38 PMYou can always count on Casca to raise an important (the ONLY important) question - in any discussion.
Posted by: Tatyana at November 19, 2008 05:44 PMI'm fairly confident that parker hates the huckster.
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 05:49 PMI'm not posting everywhere...just on this rotten huck hating blog...I'm doin it for 2 reasons:
1) tryin to enlighten karol
2) tryin to help karol with advertising
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 05:50 PMHahaha. Wow, THANKS, Larry. You're so, so kind.
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 05:52 PMWith friends like this, who needs an enema?
Posted by: Casca at November 19, 2008 06:07 PMI do it cause I care, Karol :)
Posted by: Larry at November 19, 2008 06:08 PMI do it cause I care, Karol :)
Or, more likely, because you're nuts.
Posted by: Karol at November 19, 2008 06:16 PMI'm done talking about Huck...I have more important things to worry about...Like the Redskins beating Seattle this week :)
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Posted by: xtrajw at November 19, 2008 07:57 PMChristopher Buckley described Darth Parker as "lovely," "very dishy," and "superb." I don't see it, but then I'm not a guy.
I can't stand Parker's writing. I remember listening to her once on Bill Bennett's radio show and thinking that she was horribly coy, so I have a hard time believing that she was so affronted by Sarah Palin's wink during the vice presidential debate.
Can we all agree that Todd Palin is much cuter than Janet Huckabee? I think so.
Posted by: KS at November 19, 2008 08:48 PMVery dishy??
Now I'm beginning to think that the extramarital affair was simply a smokescreen to obscure his latent homosexuality.
Posted by: Gerard at November 20, 2008 05:06 AM


