December 17, 2008
We're so moving back to my beloved upper east side*
I just walked by a cordoned area and a bunch of cop cars a few blocks from my apartment. Was it a Law&Order episode being shot? Turns out no, it was a shooting, during the day on the upper west side! I want out of this warzone! (Via Jen Chung's Facebook)
*The background is that everyone, and their mother, prefers the upper west side to the upper east side. It's more "cultural", has better stores and restaurants, nicer architecture and is less homogeneous with less post-college kids packing 6 to a 2-bedroom. Not I, however. While I do agree that some of these things are true, the buildings are certainly prettier, I find the UES to be much chiller and much less crowded. Everyone on the UWS seems pissed off at the world and in a hurry all the time. I've seen multiple fist fights and shoving matches, mostly between women in their 60's, at Fairway (considered the best supermarket--but only if you like your shopping experience being entirely harrowed). IC made me move to the UWS because blah blah, I work from home and he gets up at the crack of dawn and goes to the office. But if there are shootings I think I've got a case to move back east.
UPDATE: I could totally guilt IC by telling him how often I'm in that store but I won't. But I could.
Posted by Karol at December 17, 2008 06:28 PM | TrackBackTechnorati Tags: Shooting+upper+west+side
Nice try....
Can we get clarification as to where on the UWS she lives? I'm guessing closer to Columbia...
Posted by: IC at December 17, 2008 06:50 PMRayyyyyyycist. I walked by the crime scene today! It's 2 blocks away from us!
Posted by: Karol at December 17, 2008 07:05 PMWHOA! You beat me to the raycist comment. I'll add a dyyyaaaam. (BTW, I love that this is "via someone's facebook status" I get most of my news that way. Like I started to see a flood of "so and so is sending positive wishes to Mumbai and I was all "huh, what's going on in Mumbai!" Also, I now like saying the word Mumbai. And typing Mumbai. Because when I type Mumbai, I hear the word Mumbai in my head and it makes me smile. Mumbai.
Posted by: nds at December 17, 2008 07:10 PMOh, but the Upper East Side sucks and I'm never going back there. Mumbai.
Posted by: nds at December 17, 2008 07:10 PMRayyyycisst? I call BOOOOOL SHEEET. Poor neighborhoods have a higher incidence of crime. I'm making no judgement or assumptions as to who lives in those neighborhoods.
Call me crazy for thinking that the 60-year old yentas elbowing you at Fairway are not carrying a gat in their waist. If the crime was blocks from our place, I got $5 that its some sort of love triangle/domestic dispute gone wrong.
Posted by: IC at December 17, 2008 07:21 PMFurthermore, you two are the racists for even thinking that I was racist. Especially the one of you who locks their car door when innocent black teenagers walk by your car in BROAD daylight. And for the record, it's the one I'm not engaged to that does that.
Posted by: IC at December 17, 2008 07:35 PMMumbai.
Posted by: IC at December 17, 2008 07:37 PMFairway is the best. Of course, Brooklyn gets the best Fairway.
Honestly, both UWS and UES are pretty dull for the under-50 set.
Posted by: someone at December 17, 2008 09:57 PMUm, how about making like Snake Plissken and _escaping from New York_? Just a thought.
Posted by: James at December 17, 2008 10:08 PMSomeone, I LIKE dull where I live. I don't want to live somewhere exciting. The UES is quiet and not that crowded. And no one is pushing and shoving and trying to make me give money to the DNC. We just take it easy up there.
Posted by: Karol at December 17, 2008 11:17 PMAnd James, for all my problems with NY, I don't think I could live in many other places. "It's the worst, except for all the others."
Posted by: Karol at December 17, 2008 11:19 PMEh, you'll be buying a house in the burbs in the next few years, and joining the PTA. In the short term, for the terminally paranoid, body armor is cheaper than moving. You'd look good in a kevlar brain bucket.
Posted by: Casca at December 18, 2008 07:31 AMI go on vacation and the neighborhood falls apart!
I find the UES to have a lot more car traffic than the UWS and a lot more street noise from cars. Driving around the UWS is better than driving around in the UES. Plus the street grid on the UES is so boring. Broadway cutting across diagnal makes things a little interesting on the UWS.
Overall the UES is more crowded and congested with both cars and people than the UWS. But both both neighborhoods have their peaceful quite areas. Karol you live along Broadway in the low 70's upper 60's? That is like the busiest area of the neighborhood.
As for the people, the UES has a lot of rich snobby people and the UWS has a lot of rich flaky people.
Posted by: PAUL at December 18, 2008 02:26 PMI do live in a busy part of the UWS but I lived in a busy part of the UES too! 86th Street on the east side is, by far, the busiest street.
And while both areas are obviously full of rich people, the UES is one of the most affordable neighborhoods in Manhattan.
Also, that Broadway horizontal thing you mention is such a deathtrap.
I like boring for my home neighborhood. I'll take excitement elsewhere and come home to my quiet, staid neighborhood.
(I should admit here that A)there was a murder on my street on the UES and B)I walked into an armed robbery at the Duane Reade on my corner, so I do realize crime happens everywhere. I just miss the east side.)
Posted by: Karol at December 18, 2008 02:49 PMyea, Near Lincoln Center the Broadway diagonal thing is a death trap for cars and pedestrians, but thats one reason i say its not boring, LOL.
I guess we disagree on what neighborhoods busier. I do agree that E86st and 2nd Avenue is less busy than Bway in the 60's.
But E86st and Lex is probably busiest of all.
I see all the new skyrises going up in the UWS and think to myself the UWS is turning into the UES. More traffic, more people, more noise...
I see the new construction going up where I live, Manhattan Valley, and think to myself Manhattan Valley is turning into the UWS.
I'm like you, i prefer where i live to be quite, neighborhoody and neighborly. I don't want this neighborhood to become the UWS. And I don't want where I work in the UWS to turn into the UES.
I don't understand how the city can be so broke. With all the new construction of condo's and apartments it should generate a ton of new real estate tax revenue for the city right?
Posted by: PAUL at December 18, 2008 03:12 PMyea, Near Lincoln Center the Broadway diagonal thing is a death trap for cars and pedestrians, but thats one reason i say its not boring, LOL.
I guess we disagree on what neighborhoods busier. I do agree that E86st and 2nd Avenue is less busy than Bway in the 60's.
But E86st and Lex is probably busiest of all.
I see all the new skyrises going up in the UWS and think to myself the UWS is turning into the UES. More traffic, more people, more noise...
I see the new construction going up where I live, Manhattan Valley, and think to myself Manhattan Valley is turning into the UWS.
I'm like you, i prefer where i live to be quite, neighborhoody and neighborly. I don't want this neighborhood to become the UWS. And I don't want where I work in the UWS to turn into the UES.
I don't understand how the city can be so broke. With all the new construction of condo's and apartments it should generate a ton of new real estate tax revenue for the city right?
Posted by: PAUL at December 18, 2008 03:12 PMKarol, take the 4/5/6 for a month with a crosstown connection at 8am and tell me which you prefer.
My neighborhood rankings w a few gaps.
Tribecca
UWS
Gramercy
Forest Hills
Amsterdam Projects
South Bronx
New Jersey
Upper East Side
Well, that commute sounds hellish but I'd still rather do it among upper east siders than upper west siders. Ues is just happier and full of happier people.
Posted by: Karol at December 26, 2008 02:21 PM


