No. No we're not better than that. Obviously.

It's still not mainstream on the right to say dumb things like that. It became completely acceptable on the left to plan to move to Canada each time there was an election result they opposed.

Also, Obama has been a fairly terrible president so far but we're not drawing in Hitler mustaches or Stalin hats, right?

So, yeah, so far, we're better. I'd like us to stay that way.

I want to hang Nancy Pelosi from a sour apple tree.

What Ken said. Gimmee folks who want to leave any day and twice on Sunday to some dumbass that thinks he can take my country with him...even if it is just Texas. Oh how I'd love to the see the standoff with the National Guard tho...hmmm which side would the former Presidents Bush be on...Ahh, good times.
Obama '12

Wow, really, you prefer the crazy leftists? What a total surprise! And lest you forget, many a leftist wanted to divide the US among red and blue states. Of course you forget, you can't even remember that you think Obama is as big a moron as I do.

“There’s a lot of different scenarios,” Perry said. “We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we’re a pretty independent lot to boot.”

Bootstrapping Perry's comment into a call for secession sounds like some kind of backhanded projection.

Still and all, Perry has read the Texas State Constitution, which, clearly none of you have.

Karol, great piece.

What does it say about the respective ideological "defaults" that liberals think "Canada" when they lose an election -- and conservatives think "secede"?

Oh, and there were more than a couple Obama/Hitler signs seen at the tea parties, too. Sigh.

I'd hardly call Rick Perry "likeable." I can't "like" someone who wants to force young girls to get vaccinations for a disease spread mainly via sexual contact, all because he's getting campaign contributions from the manufacturer of the vaccine. Instead of talking about rights at the state level, how about rights at the individual level.

That said, while we can, for different reasons, laugh at the idiocy of both conservatives and liberals who don't know what they're talking about, don't forget that this country was founded on the very principle of secession. If things progress so severely, people have a perfect right to withdraw from a political jurisdiction that oppresses them. Jefferson wrote without any equivocation,.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.Government's powers come from the people, which is how people have the right to say "Enough!" and destroy the government that exists legitimately only by their consent. Thus the colonials properly gave careful consideration to what they were doing, and remonstrated with the governors and the Crown. The tyranny continued, so they were justified.

The Civil War rendered the idea of state secession moot, but only because Lincoln, that great consolidator of federal power who shut down opposition newspapers and jailed their editors, was willing to send hundreds of thousands to their deaths to prove his political ideology: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union."

If Lincoln hadn't been such a bastard, like illegally blockading Southern ports to force Southern states into accepting trade-hindering tariffs (which since 1828 was far more of an issue than slavery), maybe the "house" wouldn't have to have fought itself.

So as drastic as it is, there are far worse options than secession. Even so, there's no comparison to the crybaby liberals who said they'll move to Canada or France. They aren't calling for secession as a matter of freedom.

Robert, I don't understand the comparisons of Obama with Hitler when Obama-Mao is far more appropriate.

Rick Perry - another one we can cross off for 2012.

it was nice to see all those tea parties...

FairTax 2012!!!!!!!!

Y'all who think there was no talk of secession after John Kerry lost in '04 pay more attention.

Love it, or leave it! If you don't like Obama, get steppin! God bless America, brother.

It was our land of liberty first, Proud American, and you ain't gonna like, no-ways, no-how, when we take it back.

To everyone else: see exactly what I was talking about with the Obama-Mao comparison?

It was our land of liberty first...

I guess Perry's ready to ship you back to Russia Karol.

Hardly, and the sad part is that you know you completely misrepresented what I said.

Governor Perry didn't use the words 'secede' or secession'- you did. 'Alarming News' did. Stop putting words in his mouth as the Pravda media does. And show some respect. Don't mess with Texas.

No, he didn't use the word, but what do you think he was referring to?

"There's a lot of different scenarios. We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

I personally wish he had used the S word, but that would probably result in accusations of "sedition," resulting in federal occupation like when Southern states refused to ratify the 14th Amendment.

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