Don't believe for a second that IWon is giving up government controlled health care. First and foremost the administration is floating a trial balloon. BUT even if they do drop "public option", everyone needs to know two very important things.

1. Co-operatives: read anything they put out carefully, they would be controlled by a government panel and run under government rules along with being financed by taxpayers' money.

2. anything and everything that is passed in the Senate or House can be totally changed in "reconciliation" where a committee brings the two bills together.

"Reconciliation" is a process whereby the senate can shut down debate without taking a cloture vote. What you're thinking about is a "conference committee" session that contains both House and Senate members.

In essence, this is correct. No bill can be passed to the president that the House and Senate don't agree on, hence conference committees.

Hey Karol,

The Yahoo! News link is not linking to the article you quoted anymore. You can find article here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32437468/ns/politics-white_house/

This administration is famous for changing the language every time they are loosing on an issue. Always with the goal of attempting to confuse the American people. Another famous liberal tactic is to either demonize individuals, corporations, or their political opposition, always the blame game with these people.

This is not a victory !

NONONE should celebrate this "Dropping of the public option". This fight is not over. When the nose of the camel is under the tent, it's here to stay. Over time the Dems will ammend, alter, update, change their bill into goverment run health care. This entire bill needs to be killed dead, dead, dead.

Co-ops? Government sponsored? Government backed" Government funded? Gee, sounds just like the beginnings of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "Free of government interference and pressures". We all know how that worked out. Can't wait to hear Barney Frank "roll the dice one more time" on health care.

Sure they will take it out but just like cap and tax at 3am in the morning one day all of the language will be dropped back in! Or they will pass it with "gaps" in the language to be filled in later, and it will be re-inserted then when no one is looking.

This would be dictator is not going to give up on 30 years worth of work to socialize this nation that easily. It's the old hey look over here while they shove something down our throats on the other side of the room.

Don't worry.. there's still three years and 4 months left for him to keep trying!

I think we should be happy to take credit for killing this piece of shit option.

(Though it should be said that the co-op option is a public option in sheep's clothing, but the progressives will hopefully give him hell for dropping it.)

They're walking it back already.

When the nose of the camel is under the tent, it's here to stay.

Bzzzzt! Sorry, I need a judge's ruling on this.

The AP is just another part of the administration's political operation.

What a great institution it used to be.

It's not that we don't have media savvy, we don't have media access! Even if we wanted to reframe language like this in the mainstream media, who would let us outside of some internet blogs, Fox News, talk radio and maybe the WSJ?

So is Obama a Socialist or does he have no principles?

I lean towards no principles. Why? Cause 95% of the suits in Washington have no principles. George W. Bush was opposed to nation building and pledged a humbler foreign policy. Newt was for Obama care and now is against it. As John Kerry cheerfully said, he was for it before he was against it. Bill Clinton....well nuff said. And Papa Bush? Read my lips.

And guess who also does not have much in the way of principles? The rabid fans. The Republicans who cheer bailouts when W does them but boo when Obama does them. The Democrats who hated wars under W but love them under Obama.

THIS IS THE WAR FOR OUR FREEDOM.

I WANT TO DIRECT MY OWN LIFE AND DEATH. NOT GOVERNMENT. PERIOD.

SO: FREEDOM TELLS ME

KILL THE BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the past election the Republicans gained a deep respect for the largest group of registered voters .. I' not talking about the Democrat, but rather the independents.
The Democrats only seem to notice independents during elections, much to their own peril.

Don't open the champagne just yet. Here's what will happen:

1. The public option will be dropped to make the bill more palatable, to gain "bipartisan support."

2. The new bill will regulate insurers so much that they'll be driven out of business by these "consumer-owned nonprofit cooperatives." Here is the Trojan horse. If these "cooperatives," which will be seeded by tax dollars, are not a "public option," then what are they?

3. Voilà, Obama & Co. will say, "Now we definitely need a public option to replace the lack of coverage that private insurers can no longer provide." The "cooperatives" will be expanded and given carte blanche with tax dollars.

It's not hard to foresee this. We know the tricks well enough.

Oh yes, let me add: Weiner is such a prick. God, what a fitting name.

"leaving private insurance companies the job of controlling the costs of health care is like making a pyromaniac the fire chief."

The absurdity of his analogy should not need to be explained.

Jonas you are right, this is a war for our freedom. I don't have time to rewrite it all, so please go to http://mikefromnc.wordpress.com and check my post.

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